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Old 02-09-2008, 23:24   #1 (permalink)
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Question where to start with shooting airplanes

I'm going to the airshow this weekend in Southport. But I'm not sure where to start with the settings. I don't only want frozen shots. I'd rather want the in motion shots.

Just give me a starting point or a few tips. It's all new to me this kind of photography.
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

When I shot at fairford a couple fo years back I went with this

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The setup I will go with is Nikon D70 with Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 with following settings on camera :-

- AE Shutter Priority mode shooting at around 1/500 for jets & possibly 1/320 for props
- Spot metering with either +1/3 or 2/3 ev dialed in (bit of chimping on day to fine tune )
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- Single area focus area, centre weighted or possibly dynamic ?
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- JPEG Fine Large mode
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Don't forget the wide angle lens for alternative static shots on the ground :-

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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

That's fabulous. Thanks Dave And it so happened to be that i've got my 10-20mm lens in today So i'll be taking that as well And since I haven't got the 70-200mm, would my 70-300 do in this case? I'm not sure what the 70-200mm does more.
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And since I haven't got the 70-200mm, would my 70-300 do in this case? I'm not sure what the 70-200mm does more.
70-300 VR will be better on the day, as I had to crop heavily for above shots due to only 200m
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

For aircraft in flight, it is a good idea to capture the planes sharp but achieve the motion effect by panning. You will need the suggested speed by Dave of 1/500 as a minimum for jets. Personally, I meter the grass then use that exposure setting manually; this ensures that you expose for the light on the aircraft rather than the sky. You will need your longest lens for this.

Your 10-22mm may be useful for the static display.
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Rocket launcher ought to do the trick....
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Ok that was another question I wanted to ask. But what is panning
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Panning is when you use a slower shutter speed than normal, and then follow the direction of the vehicle / subject and take the shot as it's going past, meaning that when you press the shutter, the subject should be in focus if you've done it properly, but the background blurry and conveying 'motion' and 'speed'. You basically have to move with the subject, by pivoting, and keep level in order to get a sharp shot. Hope that makes sense

Here is an example:
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Yes it does, and that was exactly what I wanted to do. I'll have a go at that. I'm looking forward to it now
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

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Panning is when you use a slower shutter speed than normal, and then follow the direction of the vehicle / subject and take the shot as it's going past, meaning that when you press the shutter, the subject should be in focus if you've done it properly, but the background blurry and conveying 'motion' and 'speed'. You basically have to move with the subject, by pivoting, and keep level in order to get a sharp shot. Hope that makes sense

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No bad for a Nikon
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

LOL, no it's not, and not bad for a lens that now costs less than £140!
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Kwappy Kwanon example:



And I'd add on panning that the trick is to track and then follow through - it's all in the smoothness of the action!
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

May I be suggestive?

Do something to stop Photoshop [spit] stripping out EXIF for the web, and then we can see what settings were used.
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May I be suggestive?

Do something to stop Photoshop [spit] stripping out EXIF for the web, and then we can see what settings were used.

Here's one for you 10D + 70-200 1/30 f20 iso100
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Thats impressive at 1/30th
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Thats impressive at 1/30th

Cheers, i'm always panning so have plenty of practise
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Brilliant that at 1/30 - but he could have had the decency not to lock up the rear wheels!
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Brilliant that at 1/30 - but he could have had the decency not to lock up the rear wheels!

Cheers mate here one at 1/20 but i think that is on the limit

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I'm going to the airshow this weekend in Southport. But I'm not sure where to start with the settings. I don't only want frozen shots. I'd rather want the in motion shots.

Just give me a starting point or a few tips. It's all new to me this kind of photography.
When panning keep your elbows tight into your body and carry on following the plane as you press the shutter a bit like a golfer hitting the ball keep it nice and smooth try not to move the camera up and down try a couple of practise runs before the plane comes and have fun
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

I can imagine doing that when you follow a car, but does it work with following a plane in the air as well I'll do my best and hope i get some good shots from the day. I've got my 10-20 in today. So i'll be having a go with that. I hope it's gonna be dry though.
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

The weather forcast doesn't look to good, but the show still goes on. I really hope it's gonna be dry at some point. I'm determined to go
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

Practice your panning Dutchie and hold/stand in a position you feel comfortable with. Hope you have a great time
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

That wasn't easy that panning. But I managed to get some good shots though. I'm uploading them now to the pc. I will show some later. And I think I'm going again tomorrow, without the kids
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Re: where to start with shooting airplanes

good on ye dutchie!

I believe the reds were heading to southport in the afternoon? They were in portrush here at 12.00, fab show as usual.......a joy to photograph!!

look forward to seeing the shots!
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That wasn't easy that panning. But I managed to get some good shots though. I'm uploading them now to the pc. I will show some later. And I think I'm going again tomorrow, without the kids
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Menn it's done me proud, I tell ya. Just looking at them now. Wow I'll try to put some on tomorrow. Have to do some shopping now. Yes still But we're going back tomorrow for the red arrows. Cause we missed out on them. The jet's were so noisy for the kids, that both of them were crying there eyes out. We had to go in the end. But the helicopters are fab photo's.
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Ok when you go through the photo's over and over again, you find more mistakes. So the end result wasn't as good as I thought. But hey, practise makes perfect. I was tired that night. Tired eyes are no good to for judging any photo's.

But this one, I think, has worked well.


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