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Old 31-10-2007, 17:11   #1 (permalink)
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Where's my camera raw?!

Photoshop promises me that Camera RAW will open when I open an NEF file, but all that opens is a very small exposure adjusting box....whyyy!!!!
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

Dunno specifically as I work with CR2 (Canon RAW) files... but I do know that you can download updates to ACR from Adobe's website. It's worth a try if you haven't already tried that?
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Old 31-10-2007, 17:23   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

Great minds etc... just doing it now, but I think the download / update is for CS3, and I'm using CS...
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

u can use the nef files in ps7 or cs cs2 or cs3 by using the plugin on the disk that came with the cam. look for a file called "Nikon NEF Plugin.8Bi" then search in pixalo for what to do with it. it's come up before.

you can also use nef files if u use adobe camera raw (comes bundled with cs3 now). acr works in cs2 but i dunno the milage for other versions.
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

Thanks OP, although it's not so much about the file type, but the fact that I can't find any reference to camera raw anywhere in my PS, and it doesn't open like it says it should when I open a RAW file....
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

If you are using PS CS then you must not use a later version of Adobe Raw. Certainly Adobe Raw Converter 4.1 and 4.2 are only compatable with PS CS3 (and Elements 4, 5 & 6). As far as I can see ARC 3.0 to 3.7 are for CS2. Adobe do not seem to give much information on CS though I remember that I used to have v2.4.

You could get round this by downloading Adobe's DNG converter which they keep up-to-date. You can then convert your Raw files to DNG and definitely process on CS. Even though I have updated to CS3, I am now converting all my raw files to DNG which has a few other advantages. If you do consider updating to CS3, it is a huge improvement on CS and Adobe Raw 4.2 is amazing.
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

I HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM TO JACK, I DECIDED TO TRY SHOOTING IN RAW, WHEN
I TRANSFERED THE SHOTS I HAD TAKEN FROM THE CAMERA TO THE COMPUTER, THEY DISAPPEARED. I USE ELEMENTS 5 , I HAVE DOWNLOADED ADOBE RAW 4.2 , BUT NOTHING HAS COME UP, I CAN'T FIND THEM ANYWHERE.
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I HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM TO JACK, I DECIDED TO TRY SHOOTING IN RAW, WHEN
I TRANSFERED THE SHOTS I HAD TAKEN FROM THE CAMERA TO THE COMPUTER, THEY DISAPPEARED. I USE ELEMENTS 5 , I HAVE DOWNLOADED ADOBE RAW 4.2 , BUT NOTHING HAS COME UP, I CAN'T FIND THEM ANYWHERE.
Have you tried the "open as" under file in elements. Set type to camera raw. Alternativel find the file in windows, right click it and use "open with" then pick elements as the programme. With elements open already it should open quite quickly. i often use this method with CS2 because the Jpeg is along side the Raw in my files and I can then see which pic I am looking for in windows.
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Photoshop promises me that Camera RAW will open when I open an NEF file, but all that opens is a very small exposure adjusting box....whyyy!!!!
cor shoulda read that first

that's the raw processing options. You should have the ability to change the white balance at the same time.

By the sounds of it that's the Nikon NEF plugin.

Anyway, it's normal. you adjust the exposure & wb as required then press ok. or open or whatever the buttons called. PS will then open the NEF.
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

THanks OP, although, it's more that I think the mini-program "Camera RAW" should actually open so I can do little adjustments and stuff, whereas just the wb and exposure thing opens, then normal PS type stuff....no matter now, cos I've got Capture One
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THanks OP, although, it's more that I think the mini-program "Camera RAW" should actually open so I can do little adjustments and stuff, whereas just the wb and exposure thing opens, then normal PS type stuff....no matter now, cos I've got Capture One
Er. I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're saying.

Maybe provide a screenshot of the dialog you are talking about instead of us just guessing?
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

Ok, here you go. I thought there should be more than this when I opened a RAW file:

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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

right. that's the nikon plugin "Nikon NEF Plugin.8Bi". it has very limited options. However it is very faithful to what you see on the camera lcd. For example it actually uses your camera settings - contrast, brightness, sharpening etc.

ACR on the other hand ignores these settings. It does however contain a lot more controls to tweak.

I personally use ACR but only because for some dumb ass reason Nikon saw fit to strip out exif information when you use their plugin.

p.s. if you DO have ACR installed and it's still coming up with this dialog. Thats because you must remove the plugin file before starting PS. Sadly you can't have both the nikon plugin and ACR on the same system. I simply rename the plugin from "Nikon NEF Plugin.8Bi" to "Nikon NEF Plugin.8Bi.old"

Of course as you're probably running XP in it's default mode (you have themes running - so thats a safe bet) that won't work for you and you'll need to remove the file from the plugins folder instead. PS automatically loads all files with a .8Bi extension from the plugins folder.
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How do I know if ACR is actually there though, cos I'm not certain it is...
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

remove the plugin, try and open a nef.

if it works, you have acr. if it doesn't then you don't
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OK it said it can't read the file after I removed the plugin, so I guess I don't have it, but then....why not?
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it doesn't come bundled. you have to download and install it.
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Re: Where's my camera raw?!

p.s. Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Windows

I use CS2 and my limit is V3.7 I'm not sure what version CS uses but it will not be higher than V3.7

Sadly D50 support didn't come in till v3.2 so pick anything between.
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Thanks OP you've been a great help (if this works )
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Well nothing above 2.4 works for CS, so I guess CS just doesn't have D50 support....
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Well nothing above 2.4 works for CS, so I guess CS just doesn't have D50 support....
well. not quite. you can use the nikon plugin (as you have been)
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Well yeah, sorry, I meant ACR for CS OH well, I've got Capture One, which is great so I'm not complaining! (thanks Rob )
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