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Old 02-04-2007, 22:18   #1 (permalink)
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I went into jessops the other day with the intent of getting a cokin filter set and a couple of filters. preferably a polariser and graduated ND filter........ so..... had the filter set and adapter for 58mm....... 28..........

went to the desk to ask for a cokin polariser for it.............. 59.99...............I would have fallen off my chair had i been sitting..............

asked the price of a graduated ND........... they had none....... not a single one. and then they said that Cokin had NO graduated ND's on their catalogue list.........

couldnt believe it...... especially the price of the polariser... i thought cokin filters were meant to work out cheaper !

i quickly put everything back, picked up a hoya screw in polariser and a 1gb Cf card for LESS than the cokin polariser on its own.

and still dont have a graduated nd! and now no vouchers left to buy it! lol

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Old 02-04-2007, 23:24   #2 (permalink)
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I'm with you there Fiona, filters are not cheap. I've been wanting a couple of ND Grad's myself for quite a while now, but haven't gone for it yet. Cokin filters don't pretend to be cheap, but they are good. If you want expensive, check out Lee Filters
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The prices can be expensive, especially from the high street stores. from your post it appears as though you had vouchers that you wanted to redeem but even so the fact that Jessops didn't have the stock adds weight to the fact that their business is suffering not just on prices but on having stock. Many people have admitted that they will use places like Jessops for the quick need items (and pay a premium for that service) but when they have not even got stock what chance of survival do they have
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Not a good sign for sure
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The prices can be expensive, especially from the high street stores. from your post it appears as though you had vouchers that you wanted to redeem but even so the fact that Jessops didn't have the stock adds weight to the fact that their business is suffering not just on prices but on having stock. Many people have admitted that they will use places like Jessops for the quick need items (and pay a premium for that service) but when they have not even got stock what chance of survival do they have
what got me was not just the fact that they didint have the stock, but according to them Cokin themselves didint have neutral grads on their catalogue............... this i cant understand at all., they DID have ND filters but not the graduated ones, looks like i will just make do with the polariser.

First time i have been disapponted with jessops.. however they did have all their memory cards at half price!

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No ND Grads in Cokins cat Fi ?
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First time i have been disapponted with jessops.. however they did have all their memory cards at half price!
Trouble being that, even at half Jessops' regular price, their memory cards are still more expensive than the standard price of many of their competitors - both online and in the high street. If that's not an indication of how they're out to fleece customers then I don't know what is
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Re: would u believe

Just looked at the cokin web-site. These are the grad ND's listed:

Grey G1 ref 120
G2 ND8 ref 212
G2 light ND2 ref 121L
G2 med ND4 ref 121M
G2 soft ND8 ref 121s
G2 full ND8 ref 121f

There are also a variety of coloured grads too.

This is their explanation of the various strengths:

ND2 reduces amount of light to 50%
ND4 reduces amount of light to 25%
ND8 reduces amount of light to 12.5%

in other words, ND-2 absorbs 1 F-stop of light.
ND-4 absorbs 2 F-stops of light.
ND-8 absorbs 3 F-stops of light.

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Re: would u believe

Proof that jessops deserve the death that's coming too them.

You can get the grad ND's from the devoncamera usually about 12 each.

Devon Camera Centre - photo optical digital video | Devon Camera Centre

Cokin P120 Gradual Neutral Grey G1
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121 Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121F Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121L Gradual Neutral Grey G2 Light (ND2)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121M Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND4)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121s Gradual Neutral Grey G2 Soft (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT



I am assuming of course it's the P series you want. This also means you should have the adapter rings for your lens and the filter holder. If not: -


Cokin BP400 P Filter Holder
7.99 inc VAT

Cokin BPW700A Holder & Catalogue
8.99 inc VAT



And the rings...

Cokin 52mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 55mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 58mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 62mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 67mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 72mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 77mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 82mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT



It's possible Jessops where trying to sell you a kit which will include the filter holder and a few grads.

Cokin P Series Neutral Density Graduated filter kit
ND GRAD KIT includes
P Series Filter Holder,
Grad Grey G2 Soft (NDX8),
Grad Grey G2 Medium (NDX4) and
Grad Grey G2 Light (NDX2) Code: H250A
38.99 inc VAT
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Fiona ,Check out the KOOD range of Graduated ND range. They have a range which are a direct & fully compatible with the COKIN P series.
Hilton Photographic have some in stock from 7.99. Other suppliers you may find via Google search.
I am using Kood now 67mm and have in the past for my film camera. They are manufactured in Japan and I have found them excellent quality.

My very first digital camera was a minolta 303d with a 28 mm screw fitting to the lens. Kood were the only manufacturer to make and supply a Circular Polorising filter this size at the time . The filters are all glass with a metal anodised black frame and excellent optical quality.
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No ND Grads in Cokins cat Fi ?
well not according to Jessops there isnt!

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Proof that jessops deserve the death that's coming too them.

You can get the grad ND's from the devoncamera usually about 12 each.

Devon Camera Centre - photo optical digital video | Devon Camera Centre

Cokin P120 Gradual Neutral Grey G1
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121 Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121F Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121L Gradual Neutral Grey G2 Light (ND2)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121M Gradual Neutral Grey G2 (ND4)
11.99 inc VAT

Cokin P121s Gradual Neutral Grey G2 Soft (ND8)
11.99 inc VAT



I am assuming of course it's the P series you want. This also means you should have the adapter rings for your lens and the filter holder. If not: -


Cokin BP400 P Filter Holder
7.99 inc VAT

Cokin BPW700A Holder & Catalogue
8.99 inc VAT



And the rings...

Cokin 52mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 55mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 58mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 62mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 67mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 72mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 77mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT

Cokin 82mm P Series Adapter Ring
7.29 inc VAT



It's possible Jessops where trying to sell you a kit which will include the filter holder and a few grads.

Cokin P Series Neutral Density Graduated filter kit
ND GRAD KIT includes
P Series Filter Holder,
Grad Grey G2 Soft (NDX8),
Grad Grey G2 Medium (NDX4) and
Grad Grey G2 Light (NDX2) Code: H250A
38.99 inc VAT

thanx OP.... jessops were trying to sell me a kit with the holder, a 58mm adapter,. and ONE yes ONE..... warming filter. for all of 27.99 no grads were mentioned, so i told them not to bother.

Unfortuantely I used my vouchers and dont have cash for anything else, so they will have to wait...again! lol, but i did at least get a screw in polariser cos i wasnt going to pay 60 for the cokin one as well as the 30. for the holder!

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Fiona ,Check out the KOOD range of Graduated ND range. They have a range which are a direct & fully compatible with the COKIN P series.
Hilton Photographic have some in stock from 7.99. Other suppliers you may find via Google search.
I am using Kood now 67mm and have in the past for my film camera. They are manufactured in Japan and I have found them excellent quality.

My very first digital camera was a minolta 303d with a 28 mm screw fitting to the lens. Kood were the only manucturer to make and supply a Circular Polorising filter this size at the time . The filters are all glass with a metal anodised black frame and excellent optical quality.
Regards Brian
cheers for that Brian I will keep it in mind when im in the position to get them. many thanx

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Trouble being that, even at half Jessops' regular price, their memory cards are still more expensive than the standard price of many of their competitors - both online and in the high street. If that's not an indication of how they're out to fleece customers then I don't know what is

true but i did have jessops vouchers....... a 1gb Cf card cost 19.99 instead of 39.99 which i would NOT have paid
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Fiona - going on from Brian's post, I have today visited a company I have recommended previously, SRB of Luton (now merged with Griturn and called SRB-Griturn). I've used them over the years and the have very good prices and will happily give advice. They make their own resin filters to a very high standard.

I wanted a Hoya CP, but they were out of stock. They recommended the ROOD. The only difference being it is not muti-coated, and the 77mm was 46.20. The 58mm CP is 23. They said they have sold hundreds, and never had a complaint. They also said that if I used it and was not satisfied, they would give a full refund.

They have an on-line shop and have a downloadable catalogue that is packed with filters and other accessories, (step-down rings, wrenches, blowers and all sorts of other things) and advice on the care and maintenance of filters too.

They also stock grad ND's compatible with the Cokin system for 12.50.
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thanx Graham, i will check out all these places once i can afford to get the system etc.

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Yes DabHand16, SRB is where I purchased my Kood filters from. Also they make their own frames in house to order if not in stock. I'm not sure if this is the case now they have linked up with Gritum.
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As far as I'm aware, they have reduced their own manufacture of filters to resin odd sizes that are not available commonly from other makers. I guess this is not the only industry that in the current world trading situation finds it cheaper to buy in rather than manufacture. However, they are always willing to help you out if you have a particular need or problem, and I think they still make mountings and other stuff.

I'm sure they would not stock filters that were no good, so I'm happy to try the KOOD on their say so.
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I agree. I do like the Kood filters especially my Polarising ones from SRB. There is always a chance if you purchase a Hoya on the web (ebay) that it may be a suspect copy. Another source for them is Bristol Cameras a 77mm Kood CP is 42 + 5pp 58mm Kood CP is 22 price includes vat, although I have not tried this supplier

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I can't comment of those particular filters but I have used SRB in the past and have always found their advice and service to be top class. I would not hesitate to recommend them to anyone
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