Blue Window

nichpr · 27-04-2007, 22:04

This shot taken in the small west Texas town of Roma, on a bluff above the Rio Grande river. Looking forward to your comments.
- Paul

**Dabhand16** · 27-04-2007, 22:23

I like the colours and the composition, and the exposure is spot-on

but I think the shadows detract from the image.

The top one is intrusive and the ones around the seat make the image very complex, which is contrary to the simplicity of the picture.

Rob Barron · 27-04-2007, 22:40

I'm going to half agree and half disagree with graham: I think the shadow under the chair adds some extra detail and interest in contrast to the plain, simple lines of the rest of the picture. However, I agree that the shadow along the top would, in an ideal world, work best if it was just above the line of the window 'frame'.

I do like the image though, it has a simplicity about it that works very nicely.

Cheers,
Rob

Charlotte · 27-04-2007, 23:06

I like this Paul, shadows + all

I think they add to the pic + without them, it wouldn't hold as much interest. Only crit would be it seems on the bright side, with the bench looking like it should be black but isn't quite black

+ the wall looks like it has texture detail that wants bringing out, i.e. bring the brightness down just a tad.

nichpr · 27-04-2007, 23:55

Had another go at it. Is this what you had in mind?
- Paul

bellymungo · 28-04-2007, 00:00

Second one looks the better of the two as Charlotte says still a bit bright.

David

**Dabhand16** · 28-04-2007, 00:01

This is a whole lot better Paul

Strangely, now the shadow at the top is gone, the shadows around the seat do not seem to matter so much. I see that you have toned them down, and maybe this has also contributed to the improvement.

Top job.

Charlotte · 28-04-2007, 00:25

Going against the grain, I MUCH prefer the original. The image has "lost it" for me, with the top shadow gone + the fab frame you did on the original one.

nichpr · 28-04-2007, 00:50

Do you think one version would sell better than the other in stock?

- Paul

Charlotte · 28-04-2007, 01:10

Well since you can't have frames for stock photo's, you couldn't submit the first one anyway (correct me if I'm wrong, someone). Could you post the original version but without the frame? And with brightness tuned down? I realise you seem to not want to do that, but could we just see it like that? (If I had the time to pimp it, I would, but my own are piling up ...) Then perhaps get some more reactions tomorrow.

nichpr · 28-04-2007, 01:31

Here you go Charlotte. With the brightness dialed down a bit:

Rob Barron · 28-04-2007, 16:42

I still like the idea of something along the top to balance and frame the image so what about this? Ignore changes in colour and stuff, that wasn't what I was trying to show, just the shadow line at top.

Cheers,
Rob

Charlotte · 28-04-2007, 16:43

That's a big improvement Paul

Re: the compo, I still feel, quite strongly, that the top shadow is vital to this image.

Charlotte · 28-04-2007, 16:47

Hmmm, I see you agree about the top shadow Rob, but you prefer it not encroaching on the window surround, whereas I'm ok with that. Your pimp is better than no shadow at all, but it's not enough. To keep it above the window, the canvass could be extended up top (clone wall in) to allow for the same amount of shadow as the original?

chickadee · 28-04-2007, 16:55

from my opinion i think without the top shadow being as big (or as wide) as the original , has much more of an effect ,its just enough of as shadow that it looks like a edging if you understand what i mean. However with the frame i think original is a tad to much or to heavy .Depending on what your intentions are and guidelines for stock , would depend on if i have a frame or not .Like composition its a photo that could be used for variety of statements or ads.

27-04-2007, 22:04	#1 (permalink)
nichpr Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 828	Blue Window This shot taken in the small west Texas town of Roma, on a bluff above the Rio Grande river. Looking forward to your comments. - Paul Last edited by nichpr : 27-04-2007 at 22:19.

27-04-2007, 22:23	#2 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,722	Re: Blue Window I like the colours and the composition, and the exposure is spot-on but I think the shadows detract from the image. The top one is intrusive and the ones around the seat make the image very complex, which is contrary to the simplicity of the picture.

27-04-2007, 22:40	#3 (permalink)
Rob Barron Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poole, Dorset Posts: 5,115	Re: Blue Window I'm going to half agree and half disagree with graham: I think the shadow under the chair adds some extra detail and interest in contrast to the plain, simple lines of the rest of the picture. However, I agree that the shadow along the top would, in an ideal world, work best if it was just above the line of the window 'frame'. I do like the image though, it has a simplicity about it that works very nicely. Cheers, Rob

27-04-2007, 23:06	#4 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,681	Re: Blue Window I like this Paul, shadows + all I think they add to the pic + without them, it wouldn't hold as much interest. Only crit would be it seems on the bright side, with the bench looking like it should be black but isn't quite black + the wall looks like it has texture detail that wants bringing out, i.e. bring the brightness down just a tad.

27-04-2007, 23:55	#5 (permalink)
nichpr Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 828	Re: Blue Window Had another go at it. Is this what you had in mind? - Paul

28-04-2007, 00:00	#6 (permalink)
bellymungo Getting Comfy Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 100	Re: Blue Window Second one looks the better of the two as Charlotte says still a bit bright. David

28-04-2007, 00:01	#7 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,722	Re: Blue Window This is a whole lot better Paul Strangely, now the shadow at the top is gone, the shadows around the seat do not seem to matter so much. I see that you have toned them down, and maybe this has also contributed to the improvement. Top job.

28-04-2007, 00:25	#8 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,681	Re: Blue Window Going against the grain, I MUCH prefer the original. The image has "lost it" for me, with the top shadow gone + the fab frame you did on the original one.

28-04-2007, 00:50	#9 (permalink)
nichpr Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 828	Re: Blue Window Do you think one version would sell better than the other in stock? - Paul

28-04-2007, 01:10	#10 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,681	Re: Blue Window Well since you can't have frames for stock photo's, you couldn't submit the first one anyway (correct me if I'm wrong, someone). Could you post the original version but without the frame? And with brightness tuned down? I realise you seem to not want to do that, but could we just see it like that? (If I had the time to pimp it, I would, but my own are piling up ...) Then perhaps get some more reactions tomorrow.

28-04-2007, 01:31	#11 (permalink)
nichpr Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 828	Re: Blue Window Here you go Charlotte. With the brightness dialed down a bit:

28-04-2007, 16:42	#12 (permalink)
Rob Barron Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poole, Dorset Posts: 5,115	Re: Blue Window I still like the idea of something along the top to balance and frame the image so what about this? Ignore changes in colour and stuff, that wasn't what I was trying to show, just the shadow line at top. Cheers, Rob

28-04-2007, 16:43	#13 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,681	Re: Blue Window That's a big improvement Paul Re: the compo, I still feel, quite strongly, that the top shadow is vital to this image.

28-04-2007, 16:47	#14 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,681	Re: Blue Window Hmmm, I see you agree about the top shadow Rob, but you prefer it not encroaching on the window surround, whereas I'm ok with that. Your pimp is better than no shadow at all, but it's not enough. To keep it above the window, the canvass could be extended up top (clone wall in) to allow for the same amount of shadow as the original?

28-04-2007, 16:55	#15 (permalink)
chickadee Been here a while Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tassie Australia Posts: 483	Re: Blue Window from my opinion i think without the top shadow being as big (or as wide) as the original , has much more of an effect ,its just enough of as shadow that it looks like a edging if you understand what i mean. However with the frame i think original is a tad to much or to heavy .Depending on what your intentions are and guidelines for stock , would depend on if i have a frame or not .Like composition its a photo that could be used for variety of statements or ads.