first hdr

automaton2 · 26-01-2007, 16:37

i like

anybody trying photomatix needs more info
lemme know

skipper954 · 26-01-2007, 17:26

This is a bright, colorful image (obviously), and I do like it in spite of the busyness, which is usually a distraction. In this frame of reference, though, I think it works well.

I would suggest that you crop the clock out. Maybe keep the dragon, maybe not.

The other thing is that I am not sure where your focus is. The hand is a bit soft, but the background isn't entirely sharp either, but that may be compression artifact. This is the kind of shot that needs 3 tries. One with an open aperture focusing on the fg, another on the bg, and a third with a tighter aperture keeping everything in focus. Then you could compare and see which works best for you.

Hope this helps.

skip

Mala · 26-01-2007, 23:19

I thought HDR was this technique of combining a series of different exposures. Right? Well that technique is most suited to scenes with very large contrast. Was this such a scene? I can't really tell. If we're talking about the same technique I'd try it in way more extreme contrasty scenes. The results are quite amazing.

Mala

skipper954 · 26-01-2007, 23:40

Hey Mala

I didn't even pick up on the hdr. You are correct in your interpretation of hdr.

If this was an excercise in hdr, then auto has to decribe what he did and perhaps post the originals. If he did do and hdr merge, it was masterful!!!!

skip

Mala · 27-01-2007, 00:03

I made very few HDR images. I'll post one now... It's really amazing how you can span such a super range of contrast and still get amazing detail in dark and light areas. I did end up with really "delicate" images, because the contrast is spread out over such a broad range. In the end I made the image a lot more contrasty... still way more detailed than I could get with a single exposure.

Mala

skipper954 · 27-01-2007, 00:13

Mala....show us your range so that we can see what you did with hdr.

Mala · 27-01-2007, 00:24

OK, this is another image of the same window. Curtains opened this time. Well, it's hard to see... but with a normal single exposure I could only get the midtones ok, with the highligts in the window blown out and lots of black an noisy shadows under the window.
But this image is now very dull. Yes, you can see a lot of detail but it lacks power I think.

Mala

skipper954 · 27-01-2007, 00:47

But where are your exposure different images that you merged in hdr to produce that lovely image?

Mala · 27-01-2007, 00:52

O those, well those I do not have on my computer anymore. So I can't show them now. But they are just a series of exposures one stop apart in exposure. Photoshop then does the merging.

Mala

skipper954 · 27-01-2007, 03:13

Well, nonetheless, good job.

It is really exciting that ps can do that with which we have had trouble ever since the first camera.

And from what I hear, cs3 will make it even easier.

skip

Soupdragon · 27-01-2007, 14:05

I like the Dragon

automaton2 · 27-01-2007, 15:11

im using photomatix

i have 2 36gb raptors in raid0

not enough room to save my exposure triplets

as usual pixalolians are cool feedback givers

one of my newest photoshop editing tricks is using my b/w filter on colored pic after ive done levels
B/W Conversion - Photo-Plugins

i make a layer mono
then make a selective color adjustment layer over it
tweak the b/w till dynamic range looks good
then put it in luminosity and usually its a tad too light however it pulls up and alters the black grey white ratio on the colored version
i love it
and if i want a tint or to further play with the luminosity i use this lab mode filter
broadband help » Forums » Tech and Talk » Digital Imaging » [FYI] Lab Blender minor update
pog_lab_blen···lpha.zip
it gives the best tint tones using random

thanks for support

heres some HDR info

NatureScapes.Net - The High Dynamic Range (HDR) Landscape Photography Tutorial

Daily Pete » HDR Tutorial: How to create ‘High Dynamic Range’ images using Photomatix

photomatix manual ] http://www.hdrsoft.com/resources/Man...atixProMac.pdf

http://infinitisimo.typepad.com/hdr1...drTutorial.pdf

How to Create High Dynamic Range Images - - PopPhotoSeptember 2006

http://backingwinds.blogspot.com/200...dr-images.html

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm

i also luv it
try it

p.s. ive found better results usins capture1 to tweak white balance only
on the multiple images
then convert to 16 bit tiff
then feed them to hdr[photomatix]
got better pix with tiffs than raw in hdr convertor

26-01-2007, 16:37	#1 (permalink)
automaton2 Getting Comfy Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 138	first hdr i like anybody trying photomatix needs more info lemme know

26-01-2007, 17:26	#2 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: first hdr This is a bright, colorful image (obviously), and I do like it in spite of the busyness, which is usually a distraction. In this frame of reference, though, I think it works well. I would suggest that you crop the clock out. Maybe keep the dragon, maybe not. The other thing is that I am not sure where your focus is. The hand is a bit soft, but the background isn't entirely sharp either, but that may be compression artifact. This is the kind of shot that needs 3 tries. One with an open aperture focusing on the fg, another on the bg, and a third with a tighter aperture keeping everything in focus. Then you could compare and see which works best for you. Hope this helps. skip Last edited by skipper954 : 26-01-2007 at 17:27. Reason: For Rob so that he dont tink I rite bad.

26-01-2007, 23:19	#3 (permalink)
Mala New here Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	Re: first hdr I thought HDR was this technique of combining a series of different exposures. Right? Well that technique is most suited to scenes with very large contrast. Was this such a scene? I can't really tell. If we're talking about the same technique I'd try it in way more extreme contrasty scenes. The results are quite amazing. Mala

26-01-2007, 23:40	#4 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: first hdr Hey Mala I didn't even pick up on the hdr. You are correct in your interpretation of hdr. If this was an excercise in hdr, then auto has to decribe what he did and perhaps post the originals. If he did do and hdr merge, it was masterful!!!! skip

27-01-2007, 00:03	#5 (permalink)
Mala New here Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	Re: first hdr I made very few HDR images. I'll post one now... It's really amazing how you can span such a super range of contrast and still get amazing detail in dark and light areas. I did end up with really "delicate" images, because the contrast is spread out over such a broad range. In the end I made the image a lot more contrasty... still way more detailed than I could get with a single exposure. Mala

27-01-2007, 00:13	#6 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: first hdr Mala....show us your range so that we can see what you did with hdr.

27-01-2007, 00:24	#7 (permalink)
Mala New here Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	Re: first hdr OK, this is another image of the same window. Curtains opened this time. Well, it's hard to see... but with a normal single exposure I could only get the midtones ok, with the highligts in the window blown out and lots of black an noisy shadows under the window. But this image is now very dull. Yes, you can see a lot of detail but it lacks power I think. Mala Last edited by Mala : 27-01-2007 at 00:30.

27-01-2007, 00:47	#8 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: first hdr But where are your exposure different images that you merged in hdr to produce that lovely image?

27-01-2007, 00:52	#9 (permalink)
Mala New here Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	Re: first hdr O those, well those I do not have on my computer anymore. So I can't show them now. But they are just a series of exposures one stop apart in exposure. Photoshop then does the merging. Mala

27-01-2007, 03:13	#10 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: first hdr Well, nonetheless, good job. It is really exciting that ps can do that with which we have had trouble ever since the first camera. And from what I hear, cs3 will make it even easier. skip

27-01-2007, 14:05	#11 (permalink)
Soupdragon Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,091	Re: first hdr I like the Dragon

27-01-2007, 15:11	#12 (permalink)
automaton2 Getting Comfy Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 138	Re: first hdr im using photomatix i have 2 36gb raptors in raid0 not enough room to save my exposure triplets as usual pixalolians are cool feedback givers one of my newest photoshop editing tricks is using my b/w filter on colored pic after ive done levels B/W Conversion - Photo-Plugins i make a layer mono then make a selective color adjustment layer over it tweak the b/w till dynamic range looks good then put it in luminosity and usually its a tad too light however it pulls up and alters the black grey white ratio on the colored version i love it and if i want a tint or to further play with the luminosity i use this lab mode filter broadband help » Forums » Tech and Talk » Digital Imaging » [FYI] Lab Blender minor update pog_lab_blen···lpha.zip it gives the best tint tones using random thanks for support heres some HDR info NatureScapes.Net - The High Dynamic Range (HDR) Landscape Photography Tutorial Daily Pete » HDR Tutorial: How to create ‘High Dynamic Range’ images using Photomatix photomatix manual ] http://www.hdrsoft.com/resources/Man...atixProMac.pdf http://infinitisimo.typepad.com/hdr1...drTutorial.pdf How to Create High Dynamic Range Images - - PopPhotoSeptember 2006 http://backingwinds.blogspot.com/200...dr-images.html http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm i also luv it try it p.s. ive found better results usins capture1 to tweak white balance only on the multiple images then convert to 16 bit tiff then feed them to hdr[photomatix] got better pix with tiffs than raw in hdr convertor Last edited by automaton2 : 27-01-2007 at 15:20.

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