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Old 06-09-2005, 19:04   #1 (permalink)
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Get rid of the shadows or not?

My first picture in here but feel free to let rip.........

Question is do I try to rid the photo of the shadows or not........if yes......how other than crop.

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Old 06-09-2005, 19:26   #2 (permalink)
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I do think it would look better without them. Seems like a hard angle to get decent light with.
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I do think it would look better without them. Seems like a hard angle to get decent light with.
Yes I had waited until late in the day when the sun was behind me but the shadows just bug me.
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Old 06-09-2005, 19:47   #4 (permalink)
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Hope you don't mind, but I had a quick go with Photoshops' Shadow/Highlight tool.

You'd have a hard job shifting all the shadow without affecting the rest of the image but here's my offering (I also corrected the perspective a little)

EDIT: Don't know whats going on here, but it doesn't look much different uploaded, but looked considerably better in Photoshop?**!!


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Old 06-09-2005, 19:54   #5 (permalink)
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Please feel free to have a play Bachs.........I also had a go with shadow/highlights but with no luck.

EDIT........what did you do with the pespective thingy ?
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If you mean the shadows on the floor in the foreground, I like them personally. I think they lead the eye up and into the shot nicely.
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Old 06-09-2005, 20:02   #7 (permalink)
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EDIT........what did you do with the pespective thingy ?
Looks to me like he's distorted it to remove the converging verticals?
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If you mean the shadows on the floor in the foreground, I like them personally. I think they lead the eye up and into the shot nicely.
I coudn't agree more! I'd correct those converging verticals just as Bachs has done, but other than that it's fine IMO.
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Old 06-09-2005, 20:43   #9 (permalink)
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I'd correct those converging verticals.
Will there be any loss to the image?
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Old 06-09-2005, 20:50   #10 (permalink)
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Will there be any loss to the image?
Yes but only slight. Perspective correction involves slight deformation of the image with means it's no longer rectangular and has to be cropped to regain a rectangular shape. Bachs has done a good job there and you can see the slight loss of image on left and right compared to the original.
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I presume you know the Perspective tool is at Edit>Transform>Perspective...just drag the top left and right anchor points out to correct.

The only time you aren't going to get shadows at that location is mid-dayish and the light won't be as good quality then so I'd try and squeeze a tiny bit out with the shadow/highlight tool and pull the darks back a little with curves or levels.

Looks OK as it is to me though!
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Appreciate the replies.....the good thing is I never took note of the perspective correction but now that it has been pointed out it sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Old 06-09-2005, 21:24   #13 (permalink)
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Is this better perspective wise?

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I presume you know the Perspective tool is at Edit>Transform>Perspective...just drag the top left and right anchor points out to correct.
Just a small note of caution when doing this.

If you get the left edge perfect, then do the right edge, the deformation on the right edge of the picture will also effect the left edge, so it can be a bit of a balancing act to get all the verticals 'vertical'.

Not sure how fluent you are with photoshop - but when you're dragging the corners of the image, holding the left SHIFT key will restrict movement to one axis only - its wise to do this when you ONLY want horizontal or vertical movement and not both.
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Old 06-09-2005, 21:59   #15 (permalink)
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Not very fluent GfK...........I did the above by.....Filter>Distort.Lens Correction.

I found that easier.
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Not very fluent GfK...........I did the above by.....Filter>Distort.Lens Correction.

I found that easier.
I only have Photoshop 6 - don't got a lens correction filter. Have to do it the old fashioned way.
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Am glad I posted that picture now as I have learnt to keep an eye on my perspective........something I have obviously ignored.

Many thanks.
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Old 07-09-2005, 15:37   #18 (permalink)
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