[fionaB]

I dont usually have people in my images, but thought it was about time i tried it.... wasnt sure if this was the right image or not but i do kinda like it.... soo. should i remove him or leave him as is.......and feel free to CnC the rest of the image as well lol

Fi

[P-E]

Remove him.

Edit; Sorry Fi I should have given my reasons for removing him .........It doesn't appear that the picture was composed to include him as it looks like you have cut his left foot off .

[Dabhand16]

If he had been adding to the image, I'd say leave him. As it looks like he is not enjoying the experience as much as you, remove him.

Next time, don't forget to include his feet!

[Charlotte]

Well it's not much fun gazing at a mouldy old wall just so your mum can have all the fun with the camera, is it

Love the rest of it, including the composition, with good colours, + exposure is spot on

[fionaB]

okies right the concensus seems he has to go....... just one thing I didint have him pose for this he was standing staring over the bridge wall and wouldnt move out the shot so i had to take it with him in it!

Fi

[Boofers]

I think you were try'n to get him in church,,

[fionaB]

lol that would have been easier than getting him out my shot!

[Rob Barron]

Including a person in a shot needs to be for a reason, and in this case there is no obvious reason. He seems entirely disconnected from and disinterested in the church which is the main subject of the shot.

Were this a shot of a person going into the cathedral, a person outside reading a Bible or a priest in vestments etc then there would be a clear and logical tie to the subject.

Of course if your photo is supposed to say 'Church is boring' then perhaps this is a valid use (I'd disagree of course but then I guess you'd expect me too <g>) but this image doesn't quite hang together, sorry.

As for the rest of the image, the church is dwarfed by the heavy dark greenery to the left so detracts strongly from the subject. At the very least I would crop a large portion of the left off completely. The lighter trees on the right are ok and removing the left, apart from a thin area of overlap between the branches and the church, would put the church onto a third and give it a lot more balance.

Cheers,
Rob

[fionaB]

ok have removed him, rob did it before i read your post! so the crop is about the same although i did play with it a tad

[skipper954]

Hi Fi

Some comments:

This one looks like there is more shadow detail.
I think here that the church should have been off center. In the original, along with the road, your son sort of points the eye to the church, even though he is not connecting with it, and so the centering works ok.

Finally, the removal of your son was done very well. If you can remember, could you go through the steps?

[fionaB]

hi Skip, thanx for that, to remove my son all i did was enlarge the pic and used a small brush ( harder for the edges of the wall, and softer for the rest). that was it

[Rob Barron]

Picture is definitely much better and you removed Murray very well. I would still defintiely remove a good inch from the left and then I think the pic will work just fine balance-wise.

[daveyuk]

Much much better without the lad in the image, as the low wall can now lead the eye of the viewer into your image

[bonniedidit]

very nice work!