Macro with flash..

busterboy · 05-12-2005, 18:05

Still playing around with my 580EX on my new Macro lens.

Comments please..

Catdaddy · 05-12-2005, 18:10

Good shot, although it looks like the second hand is moving backwards! Try using rear curtain flash!

busterboy · 05-12-2005, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Catdaddy

Good shot, although it looks like the second hand is moving backwards! Try using rear curtain flash!

Good point. Why has it done that...

***Steve*** · 05-12-2005, 18:14

Because your flash fired at the begining of the exposure and then during the remaining time your shutter was open (6 secs) it has still caught some movement of the second hand.

As Catdaddy has said use second curtain flash so that it fires at the end and gives the second hand a solid appearance in the last position, not the first.

It's fun all this flash photography isn't it?

busterboy · 05-12-2005, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Steve

Because your flash fired at the begining of the exposure and then during the remaining time your shutter was open (6 secs) it has still caught some movement of the second hand.

As Catdaddy has said use second curtain flash so that it fires at the end and gives the second hand a solid appearance in the last position, not the first.

Thanks for that Steve, Its quite nice learning this stuff indoors when the weather is crap..

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Originally Posted by Steve

It's fun all this flash photography isn't it?

It sure is mate.. Lots to learn.. "hoping dod pops along soon"..

busterboy · 05-12-2005, 19:00

1 lesson learnt tonight guys. Thanks for the tip with the second curtain flash, I think I have cracked it..

Second Curtain Flash. Much better IMO..

Matty · 05-12-2005, 19:04

very clear shots, quite impressed with how clear it is, DoF is shallow enough to lose the background and the focus is smack on the middle, so the bezel is slightly soft, cool!

RobertP · 05-12-2005, 19:07

Second picture has some of the bezel OOF because you have a large aperture... but the background looks nicer

RobertP · 05-12-2005, 19:08

Didn't take 3 mins plus to type that reply I was distracted ...

***Steve*** · 05-12-2005, 19:15

I prefer the DOF and sharpness of the first shot but think that setup with second curtain flash would be a belter.

Just my 2p's worth

KenCo1964 · 05-12-2005, 19:24

I agree I prefer the 1st but if the trail from the second hand which I like followed in a clockwise direction, using the 2nd curtain.

**stepheno** · 05-12-2005, 20:06

Think I agree with you Ken....would be nice to see the trail after the hand. Never-the-less cracking shot

regards

dod · 05-12-2005, 20:08

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Originally Posted by busterboy

"hoping dod pops along soon"..

pops along and is looking for tips

really like that and agree with Steve that the DOF on the first one looks slightly better.

How did you do that and not get reflections? Bounced?

***Dave*** · 05-12-2005, 20:41

I thought macro required one of those flashes that fit around the lens ? (note I know nowt about flashes & macro

) ....so fair play with normal flash !!!

dod · 05-12-2005, 20:53

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Originally Posted by DJW

I thought macro required one of those flashes that fit around the lens ? (note I know nowt about flashes & macro

) ....so fair play with normal flash !!!

Nah, normal flash is fine but ring flash tends to provide a more even light. I'm guessing he's bounced it or maybe used a diffuser of some kind. Great lighting whatever it is

busterboy · 05-12-2005, 21:21

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Originally Posted by dod

Nah, normal flash is fine but ring flash tends to provide a more even light. I'm guessing he's bounced it or maybe used a diffuser of some kind. Great lighting whatever it is

Yes dod I tried several things with the flash but this shot was bounced from the ceiling.

This is all new to me and I cannot believe the difference the lighting makes from bouncing it from the ceiling to direct flash..

Thanks for the input guys, A steep learning curve..

dod · 05-12-2005, 21:31

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Originally Posted by busterboy

Yes dod I tried several things with the flash but this shot was bounced from the ceiling.

This is all new to me and I cannot believe the difference the lighting makes from bouncing it from the ceiling to direct flash..

Thanks for the input guys, A steep learning curve..

You can do something similar with insect shots. Take a bit of white card, tape it to the flash and bend it over a bit. Angle the flash upwards and you'll get a more even light on the subject. Same idea as you did but without the ceiling

Needs a bit of trial and error to get the angles right but works pretty well

05-12-2005, 18:05	#1 (permalink)
busterboy Been here a while Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Harrogate. Yorkshire Posts: 496	Macro with flash.. Still playing around with my 580EX on my new Macro lens. Comments please..

05-12-2005, 18:10	#2 (permalink)
Catdaddy Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 508	Good shot, although it looks like the second hand is moving backwards! Try using rear curtain flash!

05-12-2005, 18:14	#4 (permalink)
*Steve* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An Englishman living in Germany Posts: 16,359	Because your flash fired at the begining of the exposure and then during the remaining time your shutter was open (6 secs) it has still caught some movement of the second hand. As Catdaddy has said use second curtain flash so that it fires at the end and gives the second hand a solid appearance in the last position, not the first. It's fun all this flash photography isn't it?

05-12-2005, 19:00	#6 (permalink)
busterboy Been here a while Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Harrogate. Yorkshire Posts: 496	1 lesson learnt tonight guys. Thanks for the tip with the second curtain flash, I think I have cracked it.. Second Curtain Flash. Much better IMO..

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Matty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kings hill Posts: 5,269	very clear shots, quite impressed with how clear it is, DoF is shallow enough to lose the background and the focus is smack on the middle, so the bezel is slightly soft, cool!

05-12-2005, 19:07	#8 (permalink)
RobertP Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Woodford Essex Posts: 841	Second picture has some of the bezel OOF because you have a large aperture... but the background looks nicer

05-12-2005, 19:08	#9 (permalink)
RobertP Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Woodford Essex Posts: 841	Didn't take 3 mins plus to type that reply I was distracted ...

05-12-2005, 19:15	#10 (permalink)
*Steve* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An Englishman living in Germany Posts: 16,359	I prefer the DOF and sharpness of the first shot but think that setup with second curtain flash would be a belter. Just my 2p's worth

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KenCo1964 Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Co. Durham England Posts: 1,069	I agree I prefer the 1st but if the trail from the second hand which I like followed in a clockwise direction, using the 2nd curtain.

05-12-2005, 20:06	#12 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,797	Think I agree with you Ken....would be nice to see the trail after the hand. Never-the-less cracking shot regards

05-12-2005, 20:41	#14 (permalink)
*Dave* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15,463	I thought macro required one of those flashes that fit around the lens ? (note I know nowt about flashes & macro ) ....so fair play with normal flash !!!

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