Old slipway

dod · 13-10-2005, 20:42

tear it to bits guys, I'm not sure what's wrong with it, but I'm not happy with it for some reason and I can't see it

I know it is slightly off level

CT · 13-10-2005, 21:31

Try warming it up a bit? It looks as though the colour balance is over towards the blue? Other than that, I think it's just that the very dark foreground dominates the rest of the shot which looks washed out in comparison. I'm sure there's a good shot struggling to get out though. I might have a play in a minute.

digitalfailure · 13-10-2005, 21:31

I rather like that, the blown highlights on the clouds distract a little though. Maybe a graduated filter would have helped there?

The slipway certainly leads the eye into the shot.

I'd be happy if that was on my card.

CT · 13-10-2005, 21:59

Any better?

I shifted the colour balance warmer for the whole shot then selectively darkened everything above the far water's edge.

dod · 13-10-2005, 22:29

the foregrounds a lot better, contrasts better throughout

I'm starting to think it's the 50/50 composition, if it's decent tomorrow I'll go back and retake it.

Quote:

Maybe a graduated filter would have helped there?

definitely, unfortunately I didn't have one with me, I went out just with that new IR filter and saw this on a road I've never been on before

Rich · 13-10-2005, 22:32

My amateurish attempt

Not perfect but i think the main problem with the original image is two fold. One is that the foreground is far too dominating of the entire image and 2 is that the sky and background are not colourful enough to compete with the forground.

Not sure if it works but its worth a shot

dod · 13-10-2005, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Not sure if it works but its worth a shot

That's what I was meaning with the composition Rich, too much foreground in the original I think. Thanks

CT · 13-10-2005, 23:55

I think with that very dark foreground Doddy it's a definite candidate for combining two exposures.

14-10-2005, 01:35

I think it's partly the 50/50 composition which you mention.

I also think that you shot it a bit too low down. Thus being that the converging lines of the slipway, pointing to the middle, don't have as much draw to the eye as they should.

I would personally try shooting this from slightly higher up, so I can still include the foreground detail but let the perspective bit leading off into the distance, do it's work.

If that makes sense?

Bachs · 14-10-2005, 07:31

For me, the foreground looks a little too contrasty...the highlights and deep shadows on the slipway are a little distracting.
You could pull the highlights back on the blown out sky by pulling the gamma slider back under the levels slider.
I'd have a play with the slipway by using the eyedropper tool in the curves dialogue to singleout the highlights and shadows and try tweaking them.
I'm late for work so I'll have a play tonight!

SammyC · 14-10-2005, 08:47

I think the main problem is the composition, I really can't see what this is or work out what I'm supposed to be looking at. At the moment its a bit of background with a large section of mud in the middle.

I don't know if there is a better way to compose this but I would try a different angle, but then I can't actually work out what shape this outcropping is.

Just my thoughts of course!

dod · 14-10-2005, 10:00

thanks for the feedback guys, I think there is a shot in there somewhere, just need to find it. Weathers not bad again today, I'll pop back at lunchtime to see what the conditions are like.

Liberalis · 14-10-2005, 12:37

I've looked at this a few times, and other than what has been said already I'm not sure I could add anything.

One thing I would be tempted to try is using a telephoto lens to try and compress the scene on the following shots.

But please bear in mind, I still don't know what I'm talking about, lol

Arkady · 26-10-2005, 16:13

I think sometimes the light's just not right. I keep going back to here http://www.thephotographyforums.com/...der_Castle_001 in hope of a better shot, but no luck so far.

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dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	Old slipway tear it to bits guys, I'm not sure what's wrong with it, but I'm not happy with it for some reason and I can't see it I know it is slightly off level

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13-10-2005, 21:31	#2 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	Try warming it up a bit? It looks as though the colour balance is over towards the blue? Other than that, I think it's just that the very dark foreground dominates the rest of the shot which looks washed out in comparison. I'm sure there's a good shot struggling to get out though. I might have a play in a minute.

13-10-2005, 21:31	#3 (permalink)
digitalfailure Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on the floor Posts: 694	I rather like that, the blown highlights on the clouds distract a little though. Maybe a graduated filter would have helped there? The slipway certainly leads the eye into the shot. I'd be happy if that was on my card.

13-10-2005, 21:59	#4 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	Any better? I shifted the colour balance warmer for the whole shot then selectively darkened everything above the far water's edge.

13-10-2005, 22:32	#6 (permalink)
Rich Getting Comfy Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 152	My amateurish attempt Not perfect but i think the main problem with the original image is two fold. One is that the foreground is far too dominating of the entire image and 2 is that the sky and background are not colourful enough to compete with the forground. Not sure if it works but its worth a shot

13-10-2005, 23:55	#8 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	I think with that very dark foreground Doddy it's a definite candidate for combining two exposures.

14-10-2005, 01:35	#9 (permalink)
Marcel Posts: n/a	I think it's partly the 50/50 composition which you mention. I also think that you shot it a bit too low down. Thus being that the converging lines of the slipway, pointing to the middle, don't have as much draw to the eye as they should. I would personally try shooting this from slightly higher up, so I can still include the foreground detail but let the perspective bit leading off into the distance, do it's work. If that makes sense?

14-10-2005, 07:31	#10 (permalink)
Bachs Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Montrose NE Scotland Posts: 919	For me, the foreground looks a little too contrasty...the highlights and deep shadows on the slipway are a little distracting. You could pull the highlights back on the blown out sky by pulling the gamma slider back under the levels slider. I'd have a play with the slipway by using the eyedropper tool in the curves dialogue to singleout the highlights and shadows and try tweaking them. I'm late for work so I'll have a play tonight!

14-10-2005, 08:47	#11 (permalink)
SammyC Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,466	I think the main problem is the composition, I really can't see what this is or work out what I'm supposed to be looking at. At the moment its a bit of background with a large section of mud in the middle. I don't know if there is a better way to compose this but I would try a different angle, but then I can't actually work out what shape this outcropping is. Just my thoughts of course!

14-10-2005, 10:00	#12 (permalink)
dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	thanks for the feedback guys, I think there is a shot in there somewhere, just need to find it. Weathers not bad again today, I'll pop back at lunchtime to see what the conditions are like.

14-10-2005, 12:37	#13 (permalink)
Liberalis Been here a while Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 381	I've looked at this a few times, and other than what has been said already I'm not sure I could add anything. One thing I would be tempted to try is using a telephoto lens to try and compress the scene on the following shots. But please bear in mind, I still don't know what I'm talking about, lol

26-10-2005, 16:13	#14 (permalink)
Arkady Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire Posts: 1,198	I think sometimes the light's just not right. I keep going back to here http://www.thephotographyforums.com/...der_Castle_001 in hope of a better shot, but no luck so far.