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Old 17-04-2007, 14:26   #1 (permalink)
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apart from the usual post processing needed on a RAW image, this one as is, in comparison to the manipualted one in the sharing threads. uncropped.

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Old 17-04-2007, 16:42   #2 (permalink)
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I was comparing the two shots, Fi, and can see your challenge regarding the highlights in the water splash. Can see how this might prevent you from pulling more color from the grass on the bank. I have had this same frustration many times myself. Don't know if the ND filter is the answer or if I need to get there earlier before full light.
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Old 17-04-2007, 17:19   #3 (permalink)
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In this one I find the background grasses kind of boring. Or maybe that ought to read not contributing. The waterfall is ace, and I think the next step would be to crop the top of the shot to just over the top of the lighter patch of grass on the RHS, and burn in the bright grass in the FG a bit.

I can now see why you blurred the grasses in the other shot, but on the strength of this, I'd now try the crop.
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Old 17-04-2007, 17:48   #4 (permalink)
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Don't know if the ND filter is the answer or if I need to get there earlier before full light.
ND filter won't help with these conditions, Paul, as it's used to filter back a bright sky. As you suggest, earlier/later in the day or cloudy to even out the light more. However, even then (as here) you'd still need to use exposure compensation (or preferably manual) to prevent burned highlights. Problem can be that on a bright day, after adjusting for the bright highlights, the remainder is lost in the resulting under exposed surroundings!
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Old 17-04-2007, 18:15   #5 (permalink)
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Thanx all, mark that is exactly what did happen, unfortunately this was taken on a bright day with a lot of haze which just added to the brightness on the highlights, not having an ND filter i did have a polariser on and it was shot in manual. but as you said Mark the exposure compensation only darkened everything else, and as i didint have my tripod it was ni on impossible to get two exact shots the same with different exposure to merge them.

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Old 17-04-2007, 18:21   #6 (permalink)
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Haze is usually good - helps to even out the light (diffuses the harsh sun). Polariser will help to a degree by reducing some of the glare off the water, but not enough, in my experience (tho it does help to allow longer exposures for the 'silky, milky' look!).

I use single exposures and dodge back detail in the dark shadows (but will admit that sometimes they just are too dark). Never have yet managed to get two handheld exposures to successfully merge (always a very slight spatial difference in the two shots)
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Old 17-04-2007, 19:04   #7 (permalink)
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Never have yet managed to get two handheld exposures to successfully merge (always a very slight spatial difference in the two shots)
I wonder if CS3 will do it? From what I have read and seen, it miraculously merges non-identical images.

Anyone with experience?

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Old 17-04-2007, 20:07   #8 (permalink)
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None here Skip, still lots to learn about cs2! lol

Many thanx for the comments all

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I wonder if CS3 will do it? From what I have read and seen, it miraculously merges non-identical images.

Anyone with experience? skip
You can merge non-identical images IF the mismatch is lateral. In this case, you can align them, either automatically in an HDR prog or manually by moving + rotating one of the layers. If however you have moved backward or forward even slightly, i.e. changed the distance between the camera + the subject, then the focal length and/or point of sharp focus will be slightly different, i.e. the subject will appear more magnified in one exposure than in the other, in which case you will never get them perfectly matched without blurry edges. HTH.

Fiona, super colours + love the waterfall ... close crop needed to exclude as much grass as poss to direct attention to the waterfall, then perhaps slightly blur what grass remains. Nice to see something different from you again
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Old 17-04-2007, 21:33   #10 (permalink)
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thanx Charlotte, the problem i have with cropping is that i like the stones under the water and ii would have to lose most of them if i cropped the grasses out............

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Pimp on the way, as soon as I've figured out how to remove a photo to make room to upload it (run out of space) ...
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tap tap tap ... Mod's are not answering their PM's ... anyone know how to delete a photo (within an album)???
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click on the photo in your album,and there is a little delete box at the bottom right, I think.

But it will also delete the image from whatever board you posted it to.

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Found it Thanks Skip

Ok Fiona, what d'you think of this crop ...

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