"untitled" Coat

JMitchell · 03-12-2007, 19:07

Another scan from film, I liked this, wondered what you thought?

Modernist themed again of course

Comments welcome

TFL
Jack

_MB_ · 03-12-2007, 20:00

I'd rather see the whole person in their setting to be honest - there's not enough to hold my interest and the coat looks too modern to be modernist.. if that makes sense

JMitchell · 03-12-2007, 20:13

Boooo!

Fair enough, but I don't agree, I think the lighting and range of tones should be sufficient to tickle your fancy (edit: but, as always, and some seasoned filmers will understand, it looks better in print). It was modernist style, and had it been the whole person, unless I'd completely changed the pic, then it would not have met the brief...

_MB_ · 03-12-2007, 20:15

I disagree; there are many modernist photographs that are straight portraits/populated scenes. This looks more 80s to me

JMitchell · 03-12-2007, 20:24

I'm not sure you could call it strictly modernist then, unless there is an impressionistic element added to a "standard" shot....
Mordernist photography came about partially as a rebellion to pictorialism and the stigmatism of photography as a non-artistic and 'outside' medium. Sharp focus and leading patterns and lines without obvious focal points or meanings were intrinsic to early and mid-period modernist photography, and this is what I have tried to recreate in this image. It's about tones and shapes, not story and background.

Hope you see where I'm coming from even if you don't agree

fionaB · 03-12-2007, 21:22

hmmmmmmm nope sorry Jack, IMO this is not one of your better shots, i can see where u are going with the light and dark and the ines and patterns, but it looks just what it is... a shot of hte middle of a womans coat....... maybe going in closer and losing the obviousness of it.?

Fi

JMitchell · 03-12-2007, 22:20

Ah well. A personal shot this can remain then

Thanks for the comments.

fionaB · 03-12-2007, 22:21

sorry Jack, but hey we know u have broad shoulders!

Fi

Rob Barron · 04-12-2007, 11:15

Well Jack, I'm going to disagree with the other two, I think this image works just fine. I don't see it as modernist or whatever, but frankly that's because I hate pigeon-holing things into a specific genre. However, this is a semi-abstract shot in that it is a picture based on patterns and lines but is clearly identifiable at the same time. The whole person would be a perfectly good picture but an entirely different one to what i believe jack is trying to achieve here.

i wouldn't put this on my wall but i know people who would.

cheers,
Rob

robbo · 06-12-2007, 11:10

I love herringbone and if my waist was that thin... I'd hang it on the wall! I like the picture and it does make me think. I keep wondering what kind of hat she is wearing, if at all. I don't know why.

03-12-2007, 19:07	#1 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	"untitled" Coat Another scan from film, I liked this, wondered what you thought? Modernist themed again of course Comments welcome TFL Jack

03-12-2007, 20:00	#2 (permalink)
_MB_ Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 826	Re: "untitled" Coat I'd rather see the whole person in their setting to be honest - there's not enough to hold my interest and the coat looks too modern to be modernist.. if that makes sense

03-12-2007, 20:13	#3 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	Re: "untitled" Coat Boooo! Fair enough, but I don't agree, I think the lighting and range of tones should be sufficient to tickle your fancy (edit: but, as always, and some seasoned filmers will understand, it looks better in print). It was modernist style, and had it been the whole person, unless I'd completely changed the pic, then it would not have met the brief...

03-12-2007, 20:15	#4 (permalink)
_MB_ Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 826	Re: "untitled" Coat I disagree; there are many modernist photographs that are straight portraits/populated scenes. This looks more 80s to me

03-12-2007, 20:24	#5 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	Re: "untitled" Coat I'm not sure you could call it strictly modernist then, unless there is an impressionistic element added to a "standard" shot.... Mordernist photography came about partially as a rebellion to pictorialism and the stigmatism of photography as a non-artistic and 'outside' medium. Sharp focus and leading patterns and lines without obvious focal points or meanings were intrinsic to early and mid-period modernist photography, and this is what I have tried to recreate in this image. It's about tones and shapes, not story and background. Hope you see where I'm coming from even if you don't agree __________________ Jack Mitchell "We accept the reality with which we are presented" - - New website, online, but still in progress! Last edited by JMitchell : 03-12-2007 at 20:36.

03-12-2007, 21:22	#6 (permalink)
fionaB Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,324	Re: "untitled" Coat hmmmmmmm nope sorry Jack, IMO this is not one of your better shots, i can see where u are going with the light and dark and the ines and patterns, but it looks just what it is... a shot of hte middle of a womans coat....... maybe going in closer and losing the obviousness of it.? Fi

03-12-2007, 22:20	#7 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	Re: "untitled" Coat Ah well. A personal shot this can remain then Thanks for the comments.

03-12-2007, 22:21	#8 (permalink)
fionaB Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,324	Re: "untitled" Coat sorry Jack, but hey we know u have broad shoulders! Fi

04-12-2007, 11:15	#9 (permalink)
Rob Barron Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poole, Dorset Posts: 5,115	Re: "untitled" Coat Well Jack, I'm going to disagree with the other two, I think this image works just fine. I don't see it as modernist or whatever, but frankly that's because I hate pigeon-holing things into a specific genre. However, this is a semi-abstract shot in that it is a picture based on patterns and lines but is clearly identifiable at the same time. The whole person would be a perfectly good picture but an entirely different one to what i believe jack is trying to achieve here. i wouldn't put this on my wall but i know people who would. cheers, Rob __________________ Rob Barron robbarron@aol.com If you look down on other people, don't expect them to look up to you!

06-12-2007, 11:10	#10 (permalink)
robbo Getting Comfy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lewiston, ME USA Posts: 192	Re: "untitled" Coat I love herringbone and if my waist was that thin... I'd hang it on the wall! I like the picture and it does make me think. I keep wondering what kind of hat she is wearing, if at all. I don't know why.

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