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Old 19-03-2013, 23:49   #31 (permalink)
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Is there any part in particular that I could clarify for you jepster?
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I know I am a newby here but here is my 2 cents worth.....

Most of my Landscape images are processed in Lightroom and exported to Photomatix (which I have been using for quite a few years) and I prefer not to go for the OTT style of HDR.

They are either exported to the full Photomatix package where I try a couple of my presets or exported to Merge to 32 bit HDR, and then Post Processed in LR. If an area is a large bland sky then it does sometimes produce a milky or "dirty" result but then I mark the area and try to replace it with one of the original images (all in Phototmatix). This doesn't tend to happen if you do the Merge to 32 bit HDR in LR.

Since I upgraded to the Nikon D7000 I've found I can produce the same "pop" from Photomatix by either tonemapping a single image or producing two virtual copies in LR and adjust one to be +2ev and one to be -2ev. I know this isn't true HDR but does produce the required result for me. I still haven't decided whether the single image tone map is as good as or better than creating the extra two virtual images. Obviously this method is good for images that are not stationary so I still use the tripod and three bracketted images when I can.

Having just purchased the Google?Nik collection I am now also using Viveza 2 from Lightroom after Photomatix has done its job for some extra tweaking.
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Three images at -2.0.+2 exposure. Tone mapped through photomatix. noise reduction and clean up with Topaz. Would recommend HDRcreme which is a site for HDR and tutorials by Trey Ratcliffe of 'stuckincustoms.com and Farbspiel or similiar spelling.

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Old 31-05-2013, 00:37   #34 (permalink)
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Re: HDR Photomatix

Here is another picture comparing Photomatix and Oloneo

http://www.pixalo.com/community/land...tml#post373568
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Re: HDR Photomatix

I realize this is an old thread.... However, I am bored and have time on my hands.


The new HDR and Pandorama merge features has caused me to not upgrade to the latest photomatix and I have not launched the version I have in months. It creates a dang file that I can feed to photoshop, edit natively in Lightroom or feed to various filters I own like stuff from macphun or nik/Google

Several of the photos I posted yesterday in photos for fun (20150927 day out) were processed in this way.

Really improves the value of the ten bucks a month I give Adobe...

What are you using these days? Would be interesting to me to revisit this topic.
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I could never get on with Photomatix, probably because I did not use it enough or persevere with it. I switched to Oloneo a while back and found that it gave better results and was easier to use to boot.

I have tried the HDR in the latest Photoshop CC and found that it did give good results, but can't say at this time if it is going to take over from Oloneo as my weapon of choice for HDR, but I will try them both in future so I can compare them.
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I could never get on with Photomatix, probably because I did not use it enough or persevere with it. I switched to Oloneo a while back and found that it gave better results and was easier to use to boot.

I have tried the HDR in the latest Photoshop CC and found that it did give good results, but can't say at this time if it is going to take over from Oloneo as my weapon of choice for HDR, but I will try them both in future so I can compare them.
I must profess ignorance of Oloneo HDR. Windows only, I see. I run windows in a VM for things I must, which are few and far between.

I might give the trial a try out just for fun.. But as I've indicated in the past, I'm pretty firmly entrenched in my Macs..

I am finding with HDR in lightroom CC, I'm getting more natural looking skies (which I then crank up a bit). But I end up with less crunchy as I call it skies.. but still draw the colors out.

My work in Photomatix always had this hazy look to it that required a lot of post processing to remove. It drove me nuts and I think I quit using it mainly because of that... I see the output some people get from Photomatix and wonder if we are using the same app, or they're processing the heck out of it with photoshop or filters and aren't saying.... I guess i want something that has a "do what I want" button that nails it for me. HDR Efex 2 kind of has that for me..

I own a few other HDR apps that are Mac only, and buying them was a waste of my money. I really liked an image or two that they had on their website. I didn't come close to what they had.. even using their presets. Once again, not doing what I wanted.. I won't be giving them any money when it's upgrade time.

Cost of Adobe photographers bundle at $120 a year and Google NIK Collection covers a lot of territory. All of these higher end apps upgrade about once every 12-16 months to a new revision which means pull out your credit card. I got kind of tired of that as well. Supporting all these apps.. I gave up piracy when I started using cameras that cost 20x more than the software. Everything I use for my photography is either owned or licensed..

Google seems complacent to just sell the NIK collection as an all in one bundle and add to it without charging again.. Though when the day comes they ask for money I'll probably oblige them just on principle.. My Photoshop bundle is probably the cheapest thing I do every month for my camera obsession.


Anyway - as I'm dredging this topic up, I'll contribute something.


my recipe for excellent skies using LR/CC, any version of Photoshop that supports layer masks, and Google/NIK Collection HDR Efex Pro 3... But it would apply to oloneo or photomatix or whatever app you use... and it only applies to LR/CC if you depend on it for merging. If you are doing your HDR in another app then ignore the CC requirement.


run through merge process in LR/CC.

Export image to HDR Efex Pro 2.. proceed as normal. make the sky as crazy as you want. Save and return to PS.

Select the newly created HDR image and the original, right click -> Open in Photoshop.

Go to the non HDR image, select by color range (CC really improved this tool), pick the sky and clouds.. clean up the selection by converting to color overlay mode and blot out anything not in the sky that got selected...

Create an layer mask using the selection.

You should have a setup where the background is being masked out. if not you did it wrong..

Go to the HDR version

Cut copy the entire image into the copy/paste buffer.. paste it into the non HDR version..
Adjust the layers so the HDR version is underneath the non HDR. You'll likely need to duplicate the background layer and delete the original or however you like to manage that since photoshop will protect background laye

Now - take one of two general paths: Lower the opacity of the non HDR layer until you like it.. If you can't get it how you like it, try changing the layer mode to Lighten.. and play with the opacity until it levels out the sky.. You can create interesting effects with multiply, and other modes.. Lots of possibilities here..

Save the image, close out the other image. You can do final tweaks, sharpening, vignette, etc in Lightroom..

You could also do this to tame down the background, just inverse the selection and make a new layer with layer mask..
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Thanks for the tip Loyd

If you can run Windows software on your rig, try the Oloneo free demo. IIRC Dave Canon also uses Oloneo. note that they have two products and I can't remember what the photo editor is called, you want the HDR Engine.
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