Another from the Cairngorms

dod · 17-08-2005, 12:01

I quite like this one because of the thoughts I had when I saw it to start off with. It's a small loch just outside Aviemore, fairly remote but there were some cut flowers which had been thrown in, wish I knew who threw them in and why.

Edit: A lower angle would have been nice to get the castle more as a direct background but I was already lying on my stomach

Matty · 17-08-2005, 13:18

tis nice, i like it very much!

SammyC · 17-08-2005, 13:32

Doesn't work for me, I think there is too much of a gap between the flowers and the land. As in two points of focal interest which makes me keep flipping between the two.

dazzajl · 17-08-2005, 13:48

A polariser would have been a great help here. Killing off the reflections would have extended the forground further into the shot and lead the eye nicley.

Superbly enigmatic though isn't it.

dod · 17-08-2005, 13:55

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Originally Posted by SammyC

Doesn't work for me, I think there is too much of a gap between the flowers and the land. As in two points of focal interest which makes me keep flipping between the two.

Thanks Sammy, it really needed a lower angle to have less water in the middle section. Unfortunately I just couldn't get it because of the location

dazzajl, I did use a polariser, didn't matter which way I turned it I was getting reflections somewhere, eventually decided to leave the reflections in the mid section in favour of getting rid of them close to the bank.

dazzajl · 17-08-2005, 14:14

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dazzajl, I did use a polariser

Apologies, I get so used to people that only get them out the bag for sunny skies.

dod · 17-08-2005, 14:23

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Originally Posted by dazzajl

Apologies, I get so used to people that only get them out the bag for sunny skies.

no need to apologise. it doesn't really look like a polariser's been used

I think it might have something to do with the field of view with the 17mm focal length, too wide for the polariser to be really effective across the whole scene? Anyone know?

Was a funny day, very bright sky but really flat light, had a grey grad on here as well.

SammyC · 17-08-2005, 14:24

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Originally Posted by dod

Thanks Sammy, it really needed a lower angle to have less water in the middle section. Unfortunately I just couldn't get it because of the location

You see a true photographer would have got into the water, the shot is everything after all.

dod · 17-08-2005, 14:36

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Originally Posted by SammyC

You see a true photographer would have got into the water, the shot is everything after all.

My feet plus loch equals dead fish, they'd never believe I wasn't poaching

Garnock · 17-08-2005, 14:37

Tend to agree with SammyC on this one.
I often use an Angle finder C to get to ground level. This would reduce the amount of water in the middle section. Choose another time of day when the sun is nearer 90 degrees to the angle of view and I have to say I would get rid of the flowers since they do nothing for the shot and mean nothing to you.

Sorry to be so negative, Dod, especially since it's the share and not critique forum. :icon_redf

Cameron

dod · 17-08-2005, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Garnock

Sorry to be so negative, Dod, especially since it's the share and not critique forum. :icon_redf

Isn't a problem, as I said initially a lower viewpoint would have made a big difference

Funnily enough though, for me it's the flowers which should have been the main focal point. I can't understand why someone buys cut flowers and throws them into a loch, there's a story there somewhere

Anyway, here's another without them

Garnock · 17-08-2005, 22:10

For me this is far better, compositionally.
Some nice foreground interest without being too distracting.

I like this one.

As to the flowers I can only guess perhaps a tribute to someone who may have died/drowned nearby. ???

Regards,
Cameron

Matty · 17-08-2005, 22:41

second works better for me too, though the first is very mysterious

Gandhi · 17-08-2005, 23:39

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Originally Posted by dod

Funnily enough though, for me it's the flowers which should have been the main focal point. I can't understand why someone buys cut flowers and throws them into a loch, there's a story there somewhere

Hate to be the one to say this but round here there are always bunches of flowers tied to roadside fixtures where somebody has died, normally if there's random flowers around anywhere it's because somebody has sadly passed away there,

either that or a spurned lover!

Gandhi · 17-08-2005, 23:40

or a deliberate ploy by a desperate photographer

KenCo1964 · 18-08-2005, 09:18

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Originally Posted by dod

Isn't a problem, as I said initially a lower viewpoint would have made a big difference

Funnily enough though, for me it's the flowers which should have been the main focal point. I can't understand why someone buys cut flowers and throws them into a loch, there's a story there somewhere

I think that is why I do like it, the flowers make me wonder and certainly make you believe there is a story to tell. Although the second is probably more compositionally correct I think I prefer the first as Eosd said it's very mysterious.

dod · 18-08-2005, 11:12

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Originally Posted by gandhi

or a deliberate ploy by a desperate photographer

As if we would

That would be like using Photoshop to manipulate a shot

17-08-2005, 12:01	#1 (permalink)
dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	Another from the Cairngorms I quite like this one because of the thoughts I had when I saw it to start off with. It's a small loch just outside Aviemore, fairly remote but there were some cut flowers which had been thrown in, wish I knew who threw them in and why. Edit: A lower angle would have been nice to get the castle more as a direct background but I was already lying on my stomach Last edited by dod : 17-08-2005 at 12:12.

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dazzajl Been here a while Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 317	A polariser would have been a great help here. Killing off the reflections would have extended the forground further into the shot and lead the eye nicley. Superbly enigmatic though isn't it. Last edited by dazzajl : 17-08-2005 at 14:15.

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Matty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kings hill Posts: 5,269	tis nice, i like it very much!

17-08-2005, 13:32	#3 (permalink)
SammyC Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,466	Doesn't work for me, I think there is too much of a gap between the flowers and the land. As in two points of focal interest which makes me keep flipping between the two.

17-08-2005, 14:37	#10 (permalink)
Garnock Getting Comfy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 242	Tend to agree with SammyC on this one. I often use an Angle finder C to get to ground level. This would reduce the amount of water in the middle section. Choose another time of day when the sun is nearer 90 degrees to the angle of view and I have to say I would get rid of the flowers since they do nothing for the shot and mean nothing to you. Sorry to be so negative, Dod, especially since it's the share and not critique forum. :icon_redf Cameron

17-08-2005, 22:10	#12 (permalink)
Garnock Getting Comfy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 242	For me this is far better, compositionally. Some nice foreground interest without being too distracting. I like this one. As to the flowers I can only guess perhaps a tribute to someone who may have died/drowned nearby. ??? Regards, Cameron

17-08-2005, 22:41	#13 (permalink)
Matty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kings hill Posts: 5,269	second works better for me too, though the first is very mysterious

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Gandhi Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bath, somerserset Posts: 966	or a deliberate ploy by a desperate photographer