Furry Spiders

dod · 01-09-2005, 20:53

Just what it says, trying to get a natural habitat look

***Steve*** · 01-09-2005, 21:22

Great pictures..when you say "trying to get the natural habitat look" I take it that these are your pets then and not actually in the wild

People are strange

dod · 01-09-2005, 21:26

hehe, what I meant was showing a bit more of their natural environment rather than just going for sheer close up.

jewel · 01-09-2005, 21:54

Geewiz that's just nasty! Creepy little things man. Very good shots though Dod! The first one is a "cracker" as you say over there,lol Very nice.

Jewel

CT · 01-09-2005, 22:11

First class work Doddy. :icon_cool You're really milking the capability of that macro lens now!

They look a bit noisy. I've been using Noiseware, a freebie which you can use as a PS plug in or a stand alone version. I'm pretty impressed with it.

GfK · 01-09-2005, 22:53

Ew. Spiders. Hate the damn things.

Gimme a rolled up newspaper and I'll bash 'em good.

Nice pics, shame about the subject.

dod · 02-09-2005, 07:42

Thanks folks

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT

First class work Doddy. :icon_cool You're really milking the capability of that macro lens now!

They look a bit noisy. I've been using Noiseware, a freebie which you can use as a PS plug in or a stand alone version. I'm pretty impressed with it.

yeah, there is a little bit of noise, had to force up the exposure in processing. I do use noiseware, just didn't on these

Can't make it work as a plug in though, that was another couple of hours wasted one night

Edit: started to annoy me, ran them through Noiseware

KenCo1964 · 02-09-2005, 10:22

Evil looking thing with the hellraiser costume on.....hate spiders! But as long as it's only on the screen, all excellent captures mate.

dod · 02-09-2005, 11:15

Thanks Ken, not really that keen on them myself, but close up they're just fascinating, so much variation between the species. There's been a huge (relatively speaking) yellow/cream coloured one hiding between two bits of wood on a door frame outside for the last couple of weeks. Made it my mission to get a shot of it but it's a bit nervous

kamion · 03-09-2005, 10:57

Nice work!

Always been fascinated by spiders.

I'm a newbie, and have a question regarding the focus of the pictures. It seems like you focus on the "head" of the spider, and the body and some of the legs that are further away or nearer are out of focus. Is it possible to increase the "depth" (if that's what it's called) to get the whole spider in focus?

dod · 03-09-2005, 11:17

Hi kamion

I prefer the focus to be on the eyes as in my opinion that's the most interesting bit, round the head and mouth.

Getting depth of field in macro stuff is difficult. You're working at close distances and depth of field is measured in millimetres. You need to stop the lens down to a minimum of F10 to get a workable depth of field and that introduces the problem of getting enough light into the camera to get a decent shutter speed. To get round that people generally use a separate flash unit.

Unfortunately with the set up I have it tends to mean you're too close to really get good light coverage so I can't get enough light into the picture to go for the really small apertures eg F16 and smaller. I need a lens like CT's or an off camera bracket

CT · 03-09-2005, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamion

Nice work!

Always been fascinated by spiders.

I'm a newbie, and have a question regarding the focus of the pictures. It seems like you focus on the "head" of the spider, and the body and some of the legs that are further away or nearer are out of focus. Is it possible to increase the "depth" (if that's what it's called) to get the whole spider in focus?

Depth of field .

Macro photogrpahy which is what this extreme close up photography is called, is very demanding, and the closer you get to your subject the less the DOF is - only extending for a millimtre or less in some cases. The only thing you can really do to increase DOF is use a smaller aperture, but even that doesn't make a significant difference when you're working that close, so as you've already noticed, we tend to focus on the head and eyes usually, as being the most important part to have in focus.

CT · 03-09-2005, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by dod

Hi kamion

I need a lens like CT's

I sometimes wonder about that to be honest. It's a corking lens, but the focal length introduces real hand holding problems. You can lose the subject in the vewfinder dead easy with the slightest movement.

kamion · 03-09-2005, 11:39

Wow. Thanks for the explanations guys.

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*Steve* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An Englishman living in Germany Posts: 16,158	Great pictures..when you say "trying to get the natural habitat look" I take it that these are your pets then and not actually in the wild People are strange

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dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	hehe, what I meant was showing a bit more of their natural environment rather than just going for sheer close up.

01-09-2005, 21:54	#4 (permalink)
jewel Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,133	Geewiz that's just nasty! Creepy little things man. Very good shots though Dod! The first one is a "cracker" as you say over there,lol Very nice. Jewel

01-09-2005, 22:11	#5 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	First class work Doddy. :icon_cool You're really milking the capability of that macro lens now! They look a bit noisy. I've been using Noiseware, a freebie which you can use as a PS plug in or a stand alone version. I'm pretty impressed with it.

01-09-2005, 22:53	#6 (permalink)
GfK Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 861	Ew. Spiders. Hate the damn things. Gimme a rolled up newspaper and I'll bash 'em good. Nice pics, shame about the subject.

02-09-2005, 10:22	#8 (permalink)
KenCo1964 Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Co. Durham England Posts: 1,069	Evil looking thing with the hellraiser costume on.....hate spiders! But as long as it's only on the screen, all excellent captures mate.

02-09-2005, 11:15	#9 (permalink)
dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	Thanks Ken, not really that keen on them myself, but close up they're just fascinating, so much variation between the species. There's been a huge (relatively speaking) yellow/cream coloured one hiding between two bits of wood on a door frame outside for the last couple of weeks. Made it my mission to get a shot of it but it's a bit nervous

03-09-2005, 10:57	#10 (permalink)
kamion Getting Comfy Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Nice work! Always been fascinated by spiders. I'm a newbie, and have a question regarding the focus of the pictures. It seems like you focus on the "head" of the spider, and the body and some of the legs that are further away or nearer are out of focus. Is it possible to increase the "depth" (if that's what it's called) to get the whole spider in focus?

03-09-2005, 11:17	#11 (permalink)
dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	Hi kamion I prefer the focus to be on the eyes as in my opinion that's the most interesting bit, round the head and mouth. Getting depth of field in macro stuff is difficult. You're working at close distances and depth of field is measured in millimetres. You need to stop the lens down to a minimum of F10 to get a workable depth of field and that introduces the problem of getting enough light into the camera to get a decent shutter speed. To get round that people generally use a separate flash unit. Unfortunately with the set up I have it tends to mean you're too close to really get good light coverage so I can't get enough light into the picture to go for the really small apertures eg F16 and smaller. I need a lens like CT's or an off camera bracket

03-09-2005, 11:39	#14 (permalink)
kamion Getting Comfy Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 160	Wow. Thanks for the explanations guys.