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Old 05-01-2006, 14:04   #1 (permalink)
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After a chilly and uninspiring start to the day in Aldershot, Minimeeze and I finally managed to get a couple of half-decent shots.
No prize-winners, though...



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First with fill-in flash, second without.

Both about 1/20 sec at f/2.8. It was a grey, grim day.
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Old 05-01-2006, 14:31   #2 (permalink)
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I rather like the first one. Although it's not something you'd want to spend a long time looking at.
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Old 05-01-2006, 14:33   #3 (permalink)
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the fill in flash certainly adds detail to her face....well executed shots
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Old 05-01-2006, 14:38   #4 (permalink)
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The colours are definately better in the first shot, but I prefer the second just because it appears more natural - due to her not looking at the camera

Are these handheld - seem pretty sharp for 1/20?
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Old 05-01-2006, 14:41   #5 (permalink)
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I rather like the first one. Although it's not something you'd want to spend a long time looking at.
Eggactly what I thought...




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Old 05-01-2006, 14:58   #6 (permalink)
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All hand-held. Mini wanted to bring a tripod, but I was firm and said no.
I posted these just to show the difference between fill-in flash and without and how it doesn't have to look artificial if flash is used.
Also to show the others here the sort of thing I'll be pushing you to do if I get these little get-togethers organised.
Lots of talking to strangers and setting the situations up, not just blazing away from 20ft with an 80-200mm.
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Eggactly what I thought...




It's no yolk...
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Old 05-01-2006, 15:03   #8 (permalink)
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yeah I like the first shot as well Arkady, she doesn't look too happy though. Do people appreciate you coming up that close and sticking a camera in their face. I'm guessing you had to ask first right?

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Old 05-01-2006, 15:22   #9 (permalink)
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Absolutely - esp with people who may be doing cash-jobs and not telling the DSS about it.
One of the things I was getting Mini to do was to approach the subjects first, tell them what we were up to and then work round the subjects using different angles and viewpoints. And to keep talking to the subjects all the time you work - nothing more off-putting than a totally silent lens stuck in your face. Don't talk from behind the lens though, always remember to take the camera down for a few moments every once in a while.

And as long as you're up-front, most people are OK with it and you can get in really close with a 14mm if you want to, just ask them to stand still for a moment or two while you get the shot.
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Old 05-01-2006, 15:26   #10 (permalink)
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There's only one shot to me?

The chick with the eggs, (no pun intended). She doesnt look happy though.
Did you ask / notify them first, or did you just shove a camera in their face and chat afterwards?
 
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Old 05-01-2006, 15:27   #11 (permalink)
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Chat first. Same viewpoint to illustrate the difference between flash and no flash.

And she was bl00dy cold...
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Old 05-01-2006, 15:28   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks Bloomin eck you're quick...lol
Just read your answer after I posted..
 
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We aim to please...
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Old 05-01-2006, 15:29   #14 (permalink)
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You're too efficient
 
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Have to be around here...
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Old 05-01-2006, 16:05   #16 (permalink)
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I think the eye contact shots can be very powerful, especially when you've had no dialogue with the subject. It takes a lot of bottle though sometimes!

I like the angle you've taken these at Rob.
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good demonstration of what you refered to before

so looks like no clucking around today, getting Mini in and egging her on....
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Really looking forward to the last weekend in January now...
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Matty...

Get...




yer...




Coat...
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Old 05-01-2006, 17:09   #20 (permalink)
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Groan... these egg jokes are getting worse.

Many thanks to Arkady for a great day, inbetween al