Richmond Park

JMitchell · 27-01-2007, 23:24

Just had my first real day shooting with the D50 outside, went to Richmond park (just outside London, you non-englanders). Got 5 or so shots I like, but I'll put two on here for now, that I am not sure about, but are included in the 5.
#1: Too much going on? Wrong composition? I have a zoomed out-er version, but it just doesn't do the same things for me....
#2: (Is a farily large crop) Wrong composition? I think it might need a little more PP as well, what do you think?
Here they are:
#1

#2

Thanks guys,

danpen · 28-01-2007, 05:57

Jack, the first has some nice autumnal colours but as you say there's too much going on, I'm not sure what the subject is and there's nothing to really grab my eye.

The second one is a good, sharp shot and the deer stand out well against the background. Two things that might be improved.

1. It would be better if at least one of the deer were looking towards the camera and the shot was composed to make that one the subject.

2. A more interesting sky, difficult to achieve without post processing as you need to expose for the subject, a graduated ND filter or in some cases a Polariser could help but I think these days most people either take two shots and stitch them or just manipulate the single image.

Hope you like the new camera and I look forward to seeing some more shots.

cheers

Dan

**stepheno** · 28-01-2007, 09:16

Hi J - have to agree with Dan's comments here. Just for your info...the first one's file size is over the forum limit of 200k. If you could keep your eyes on that for the future - many thanks.

**Angela** · 28-01-2007, 09:30

You went to Richmond Park and you didn't come to see me on Wimbledon Common!!??

The sharpness in that first photo is incredible though....you do feel like you could reach out and touch the moss. I love photographing the deer in the Park, last time I did that it was just as the rutting season was starting and you really did not want to be getting too blimmin' close!!

fionaB · 28-01-2007, 10:18

agree about the first one, my first thoughts were." lovely colours, but what is the photo of?" no focal point or subject.......... second one is nice but like Dan says a deer faing more towards you would have just finished it off.

Fi

JMitchell · 28-01-2007, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angela

You went to Richmond Park and you didn't come to see me on Wimbledon Common!!??

My dad did suggest that as we were heading towards Richmond, I only ended up having about 1/2 hour shooting

, but I didn't know you were around there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angela

The sharpness in that first photo is incredible though....you do feel like you could reach out and touch the moss. I love photographing the deer in the Park, last time I did that it was just as the rutting season was starting and you really did not want to be getting too blimmin' close!!

Damn right, this is a rather huge crop, I wasn't getting close, rutting season or not

JMitchell · 28-01-2007, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by fionaB

agree about the first one, my first thoughts were." lovely colours, but what is the photo of?" no focal point or subject.......... second one is nice but like Dan says a deer faing more towards you would have just finished it off.

Fi

Yes, I know about the first one...meh, I'm pleased witht he sharpness of the D50 and lens at least

As for the second one, it was actually turning around and about to walk away at this point

so I had to grab the shot fast. Have some others with deer facing me, but none of stag, and he was the most impressive

Also, I didn't have that much time to take the shots, as there were some noisy kids running towards the poor deer, so they weren't gonna stick around

Thanks for all your comments guys, they weren't as bad as I expected

.
Steve: it was only 16k over...does that matter? Not questioning your rules, just wondering what the exact reason is...

**stepheno** · 28-01-2007, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMitchell

Steve: it was only 16k over...does that matter? Not questioning your rules, just wondering what the exact reason is...

I'm afraid it does matter J - there has to be a ruling or site resource will suffer. If we let one through at 16k over then the next one thinks "well it's only 25k over" and it goes on until it becomes a free-for-all. You can always insert a small image with a link to an off-site larger image if you want people to see the full sized image. Thanks for your understanding.

JMitchell · 28-01-2007, 11:49

Ok here's another, with some deer facing me! And, what's more, it's only 196k!!!! Hope you like:

Better?

Rob Barron · 28-01-2007, 13:46

This one is a good shot of the deer and works fine. I'd prefer that one to be differentially focused with a wider aperture so those trees are not pin sharp as they tend to pull attention away. Other than that, good shot

Cheers,
Rob

**stepheno** · 28-01-2007, 15:34

Thanks J - now that shot I like

27-01-2007, 23:24	#1 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	Richmond Park Just had my first real day shooting with the D50 outside, went to Richmond park (just outside London, you non-englanders). Got 5 or so shots I like, but I'll put two on here for now, that I am not sure about, but are included in the 5. #1: Too much going on? Wrong composition? I have a zoomed out-er version, but it just doesn't do the same things for me.... #2: (Is a farily large crop) Wrong composition? I think it might need a little more PP as well, what do you think? Here they are: #1 #2 Thanks guys, __________________ Jack Mitchell "We accept the reality with which we are presented" - - New website, online, but still in progress!

28-01-2007, 05:57	#2 (permalink)
danpen Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 875	Re: Richmond Park Jack, the first has some nice autumnal colours but as you say there's too much going on, I'm not sure what the subject is and there's nothing to really grab my eye. The second one is a good, sharp shot and the deer stand out well against the background. Two things that might be improved. 1. It would be better if at least one of the deer were looking towards the camera and the shot was composed to make that one the subject. 2. A more interesting sky, difficult to achieve without post processing as you need to expose for the subject, a graduated ND filter or in some cases a Polariser could help but I think these days most people either take two shots and stitch them or just manipulate the single image. Hope you like the new camera and I look forward to seeing some more shots. cheers Dan __________________ A mad keen photographer needs to get out into the world and work and make mistakes. - Sam Abell My Photos

28-01-2007, 09:16	#3 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,439	Re: Richmond Park Hi J - have to agree with Dan's comments here. Just for your info...the first one's file size is over the forum limit of 200k. If you could keep your eyes on that for the future - many thanks.

28-01-2007, 09:30	#4 (permalink)
Angela Pixalo Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wimbledon Posts: 5,751	Re: Richmond Park You went to Richmond Park and you didn't come to see me on Wimbledon Common!!?? The sharpness in that first photo is incredible though....you do feel like you could reach out and touch the moss. I love photographing the deer in the Park, last time I did that it was just as the rutting season was starting and you really did not want to be getting too blimmin' close!!

28-01-2007, 10:18	#5 (permalink)
fionaB Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,326	Re: Richmond Park agree about the first one, my first thoughts were." lovely colours, but what is the photo of?" no focal point or subject.......... second one is nice but like Dan says a deer faing more towards you would have just finished it off. Fi

28-01-2007, 11:49	#9 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,427	Re: Richmond Park Ok here's another, with some deer facing me! And, what's more, it's only 196k!!!! Hope you like: Better?

28-01-2007, 13:46	#10 (permalink)
Rob Barron Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poole, Dorset Posts: 5,115	Re: Richmond Park This one is a good shot of the deer and works fine. I'd prefer that one to be differentially focused with a wider aperture so those trees are not pin sharp as they tend to pull attention away. Other than that, good shot Cheers, Rob

28-01-2007, 15:34	#11 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,439	Re: Richmond Park Thanks J - now that shot I like

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