Rievaulx

John F · 13-08-2007, 16:38

This picture of Rievaulx Abbey was taken on a recent visit to N. Yorkshire when I went to photograph Fountains Abbey and Rievaulx Abbey. The latter was founded in 1132.

PS On viewing this image it looks washed out. My original picture is much more saturated. Will someone kindly explain what is happening. Thank you.
John.

**Dabhand16** · 13-08-2007, 16:48

Terrific shot, John

To my slightly colour blind eyes the colours do look look a bit odd, bright, vivid and a little washed-out. It has the feel of a watercolour. Maybe this is a colour space issue, but whatever - the image certainly works for me.

John F · 13-08-2007, 16:54

Thanks Dabhand, I didn't think about that. I have been using RGB1998, maybe I should have conveted to sRGB before putting it on the web.

No I've tried but can't find a way to convert to sRGB.!

John

**Dabhand16** · 13-08-2007, 17:14

I always use Adobe 1998 too - and most of the time I forget to convert before posting.

In PS there is an option to select a colour space in the file menu. I'm sure that other apps must have a similar facility.

Still a cracking image though.

P-E · 13-08-2007, 18:22

Certainly a cracking image.

fionaB · 13-08-2007, 20:44

yep colours aside ita gorgeous!

_MB_ · 13-08-2007, 20:54

doesnt save for web automatically assign sRGB?

This a shot with the TS lens? It looks almost too straight and makes me feel a bit unsteady looking at it. A small shrinking with perspective may be in order - unless you don't get the same odd feeling looking at the verticals in which case ignore me.

It's a wonderful image and despite it being an accident I really think the pale appearance makes it stand out from the usual British ruins photo. Good stuff.

Now find out how to do it on purpose!

water · 13-08-2007, 21:13

It does look a wee bit 'odd' but it grows on you.However,I really would love to see the 'normal',saturated version as I feel it would be 'tasty'.Oh,and a Monochrome version for Fiona!!

.................and me too

John F · 13-08-2007, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by _MB_

doesnt save for web automatically assign sRGB?

This a shot with the TS lens? It looks almost too straight and makes me feel a bit unsteady looking at it. A small shrinking with perspective may be in order - unless you don't get the same odd feeling looking at the verticals in which case ignore me.

It's a wonderful image and despite it being an accident I really think the pale appearance makes it stand out from the usual British ruins photo. Good stuff.

Now find out how to do it on purpose!

No its not a shot with the T&S lens, I've only just ordered it and it's not yet arrived. Infact it was taken with the 17 mm end of my 17/40 mm zoom. I then used only the top half of the frame. Maybe I have waisted my money on the T&S!

**Dabhand16** · 13-08-2007, 21:23

I float between correcting verticals and leaving them converging with my Sigma 10-20. I think that CV's add drama to a shot, and give a kind of surreal quality.

When the CV's are corrected to be straight I often think it makes the image look (depending on the subject) artificial, so I guess I'm in the camp of leaving some CV in to retain some perspective.

Charlotte also thinks that in the shots where I have corrected CV's, the image looks flat -that is no depth - not poor contrast.

John F · 14-08-2007, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by water

It does look a wee bit 'odd' but it grows on you.However,I really would love to see the 'normal',saturated version as I feel it would be 'tasty'.Oh,and a Monochrome version for Fiona!!

.................and me too

I thought about making a mono for Fi but I am having the same problems with mono. Untill I get it sorted I won't be posting any more pics. Interestingly when I print, the prints match my monitor almost exactly.

John.

**Markulous** · 14-08-2007, 10:37

Hmm, it looks like the Levels have changed - wouldn't expect the change from Adobe to sRGB to lighten ('normally' darkens). And pic here is sRGB (as Malcolm suggest, Save for Web will automatically convert - it's how I see I forgot as the image darkens)

JMitchell · 14-08-2007, 12:26

I attempted a dramatic mono, I hope you don't mind!

**Dabhand16** · 14-08-2007, 13:00

Not bad Jack - but I think the FG needs to be toned down for best effect.

JMitchell · 14-08-2007, 13:17

Ok.....

13-08-2007, 16:38	#1 (permalink)
John F Been here a while Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southwell, Nottinghamshire Posts: 390	Rievaulx This picture of Rievaulx Abbey was taken on a recent visit to N. Yorkshire when I went to photograph Fountains Abbey and Rievaulx Abbey. The latter was founded in 1132. PS On viewing this image it looks washed out. My original picture is much more saturated. Will someone kindly explain what is happening. Thank you. John.

13-08-2007, 16:48	#2 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,999	Re: Rievaulx Terrific shot, John To my slightly colour blind eyes the colours do look look a bit odd, bright, vivid and a little washed-out. It has the feel of a watercolour. Maybe this is a colour space issue, but whatever - the image certainly works for me.

13-08-2007, 16:54	#3 (permalink)
John F Been here a while Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southwell, Nottinghamshire Posts: 390	Re: Rievaulx Thanks Dabhand, I didn't think about that. I have been using RGB1998, maybe I should have conveted to sRGB before putting it on the web. No I've tried but can't find a way to convert to sRGB.! John Last edited by John F : 13-08-2007 at 17:03.

13-08-2007, 17:14	#4 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,999	Re: Rievaulx I always use Adobe 1998 too - and most of the time I forget to convert before posting. In PS there is an option to select a colour space in the file menu. I'm sure that other apps must have a similar facility. Still a cracking image though.

13-08-2007, 18:22	#5 (permalink)
P-E Loves the place Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sheffield, S.Yorkshire UK Posts: 7,505	Re: Rievaulx Certainly a cracking image.

13-08-2007, 20:44	#6 (permalink)
fionaB Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,453	Re: Rievaulx yep colours aside ita gorgeous!

13-08-2007, 20:54	#7 (permalink)
_MB_ Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 826	Re: Rievaulx doesnt save for web automatically assign sRGB? This a shot with the TS lens? It looks almost too straight and makes me feel a bit unsteady looking at it. A small shrinking with perspective may be in order - unless you don't get the same odd feeling looking at the verticals in which case ignore me. It's a wonderful image and despite it being an accident I really think the pale appearance makes it stand out from the usual British ruins photo. Good stuff. Now find out how to do it on purpose!

13-08-2007, 21:13	#8 (permalink)
water Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 674	Re: Rievaulx It does look a wee bit 'odd' but it grows on you.However,I really would love to see the 'normal',saturated version as I feel it would be 'tasty'.Oh,and a Monochrome version for Fiona!!.................and me too

13-08-2007, 21:23	#10 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,999	Re: Rievaulx I float between correcting verticals and leaving them converging with my Sigma 10-20. I think that CV's add drama to a shot, and give a kind of surreal quality. When the CV's are corrected to be straight I often think it makes the image look (depending on the subject) artificial, so I guess I'm in the camp of leaving some CV in to retain some perspective. Charlotte also thinks that in the shots where I have corrected CV's, the image looks flat -that is no depth - not poor contrast.

14-08-2007, 10:37	#12 (permalink)
Markulous Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peak District Posts: 9,691	Re: Rievaulx Hmm, it looks like the Levels have changed - wouldn't expect the change from Adobe to sRGB to lighten ('normally' darkens). And pic here is sRGB (as Malcolm suggest, Save for Web will automatically convert - it's how I see I forgot as the image darkens)

14-08-2007, 12:26	#13 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Rievaulx I attempted a dramatic mono, I hope you don't mind!

14-08-2007, 13:00	#14 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,999	Re: Rievaulx Not bad Jack - but I think the FG needs to be toned down for best effect.

14-08-2007, 13:17	#15 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Rievaulx Ok.....