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Old 12-05-2005, 14:38   #1 (permalink)
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Ring World...

Sorry I haven't posted in a while, but I've been experimenting with some astrophotography lately. This is a shot of my first planetary image. I find it rather acceptable.

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Old 12-05-2005, 14:54   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-05-2005, 15:58   #3 (permalink)
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Indeed

Eric I hope you will share as much info about that picture as possible as I am extreamly interested to learn the whole process that you had to go through. Is that correct in we are looking at a picture made up from 526 frames?
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Yes Steve, that is correct. 526 frames stacked. I will elaborate the process here.

ANY telescope is capable of becoming a HUGE telephoto lense. The camera one uses can be anything from a DSLR to a regular Manual SLR to a simple webcam, which is what I used. Basically, I remove the focus lens on the webcam simply by unscrewing it out. I bought what is called a "Moog" adapter for $30US, which the screws into the webcam in place of the focus lens. This adapter basically enables the webcam to join onto the telescope. From here, I get whatever object i want to shoot into the telescope eyepiece and centered in the field of view. Then I take out the eyepiece & slide in the webcam. Using the webcam software for a realtime view, I re-focus the image so it's nice & crisp on my laptop screen. From here, it's rather easy. I just shoot a 30-50 second AVI of the target object @ 15fps (frames per second) and save it. Using the REGISTAX software, it takes the AVI & breaks it down into individual frames. I originally had about 650. But the cool thing about REGISTAX is that you can go through & pick out the best frames and just ignore the rest. It then aligns all of the images and stacks them for you. From there, you get a decent shot of what you have to play with in the "Wavelets" section. And thats where all of the detail comes out of. I highly suggest playing with the REGISTAX Software first just to get a feel for it.

After all thats done, I just save the final result as a "jpeg" file and voila... there's Saturn.

I hope this helps, but I will try & answer any more questions the best I can.

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can only echo the others, wow!
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Kin L :eek::eek::eek::eek:


Thats frappin ace

What size telescope do you need to see that distance?
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Would you be able to do this with your DSLR and use many exposures of a higher quality than the webcam to make an even more impressive final result.?

I believe Canon should have supplied you with some software that allows the camera to do timelapse photography when tethered to your pc?
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Yeah, to echo DF ! KIN ELL !!!! very nice !

Its this sort of thing !



6 inch diameter !
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Steve...

MANY folks use the Canon to do this with and have STUNNING results. And yes... you can take multiple images and align & stack them in REGISTAX.

Thats almost the exact same setup I have, Ian... Only I have a smaller mount...

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Steve...

MANY folks use the Canon to do this with and have STUNNING results. And yes... you can take multiple images and align & stack them in REGISTAX.

Thats almost the exact same setup I have, Ian... Only I have a smaller mount...

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I wouldnt mind that sort of setup myself ! I found that pic on the web ! the mount looks hoooooge !

My brother has one of these,



Cost him £199 with a motorised mount, isnt the best mount in the world, but can be replaced !
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If anyone is REALLY interested in what a Canon DSLR can do on the night sky (astrophotography)... look at some examples here:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea.../o/all/fpart/1

Thanks for the nice comments everyone!
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I've finally picked my jaw up off the ground

That is just amazing, especially considering you used a webcam to capture it. The telesope is smaller than I imagined it would be too. I really can't wait to see what else you can come up with, especially if you're looking to hook up a dslr.
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If anyone is REALLY interested in what a Canon DSLR can do on the night sky (astrophotography)... look at some examples here:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea.../o/all/fpart/1

Thanks for the nice comments everyone!
Just had a look at the image in that link you have given. Very, very good. Are you not planning on buying a suitable mount then attempting this with your new 350D?
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A more stable & heavy duty mount is on my list of things to get, but unfortunately, a good mount of that quality, runs in the excess of $2000 range!!!!... And I don't have those kind of funds yet... :cry:

But soon... :wink:

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Steve, to clarify, the mount is the tripod head that the telescope sits on !

The adaptors to mount cameras on the scopes arent that expensive, i looked when my brother bought his and for eos cameras the mount ring was 70 quid, plus you had to buy a special eyepiece to attach to for about 100 quid ! (may be wrong im not an expert on this !!! lol) although once you have the eyepice all you need is a different t ring for the camera you want to use and job done !
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So, correct me if I am wrong, to use this setup with your 350D you would need to buy a new adaptor ring from the camera to the telescope yo allow coupling, AND also a new tripod type thingy as well (due to the added weight of the 350D) presumably?
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So, correct me if I am wrong, to use this setup with your 350D you would need to buy a new adaptor ring from the camera to the telescope yo allow coupling, AND also a new tripod type thingy as well (due to the added weight of the 350D) presumably?
Yes and No mate, yes you would need the new adaptor ring, no the tripod thingy should be man enough to hold the camera, although the heavier duty ones are more stable ! and can be computer controlled for tracking on long timed exposures, but my brothers one is motorised and if setup correctly should be able to track for these exposures. It just cant be computerised.
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