Shopping....with a 10-20mm

**stepheno** · 07-05-2007, 20:21

While you lot were out at some exotic place with your camera I had to take my wife to the Trafford Centre

So took my camera and just the 10-20mm. Here are a few and thanks for looking.

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skipper954 · 07-05-2007, 20:42

That is one way to suffer through wife's shopping. I am going to have to try it.

Very cool shopping center.

skip

**stepheno** · 07-05-2007, 21:58

Thanks Skip...it does pass the time

Charlotte · 07-05-2007, 22:02

Wow!! Stepheno, these are super-de-lux shots

Great colour, absolutely great compo's, great processing too, and exposure is almost spot-on ... the blacks are just a tad too black to record detail, + since a lot of ppl seem to be wearing black here, there are a lot of black smudges in the shape of people

particularly in the third shot.

Still, super shots, all of them

**stepheno** · 07-05-2007, 22:10

Thanks Charlotte. You hit the nail on the head about exposure. In that mall there are overhead domes letting light in and it's murder trying to get the exposure right.

**Dabhand16** · 07-05-2007, 22:17

Nice set

The lens really does give you a different outlook on quite ordinary situations.

P-E · 07-05-2007, 22:19

You should go shopping more often

Charlotte · 07-05-2007, 22:32

Mmmm, that Sigma 10-20mm is flaunting itself at me again ... When I sussed it out online, I spotted the 15mm f/2.8 which I wondered if it'd be better ... any thoughts?

**Dabhand16** · 07-05-2007, 22:48

Well, it is a bit faster, but I think the 10-20 will give more flexibility and at the wide end is able to add to shots by way of the distortions that can be harnessed to give drama to an image.

Charlotte · 07-05-2007, 23:00

D'you really think the extra [?? degree] angle makes such a difference as to be worth choosing it over an extra f-stop, bearing in mind that it's only a 5mm FL difference?

**stepheno** · 08-05-2007, 07:14

So far I seem to be using 10 much more than 20 but the range is there. With a 30D it has such fantastic IQ at high ISO the loss of one stop doesn't worry me.

Charlotte · 08-05-2007, 09:18

Thanks for that Stepheno. Can I ask what processing you did on these? (to gauge how much of the quality can be attributed to the lens)

**stepheno** · 08-05-2007, 10:06

I only used some Fill Light to brighten the shadows. Here is the unedited RAW file, converted to a 4.8mgb jpg and resized for web. Hope that helps.

Oh and I cloned out the spotlight at top centre

Matt Charlton · 08-05-2007, 11:08

I like those, you've captured the feel of the place very well. I'd love to try something like this but I'd be scared of getting asked what I was doing/escorted off the premises - I think some of the shopping centres you need to ask for permission before taking any shots and most of them are okay with it.

Think my favorite is the last shot with a top down view on the people going about their business.

**stepheno** · 08-05-2007, 11:31

Thanjks for your comments Matt. I tend to be a bit up-front about public/candid shots - if you just get on with it nobody seems to bother but if you look furtive or worried about being seen then you will. Security guards can only ask you to stop shooting, which I will, but it only happened once (touch wood) and that was in a store.

Where I will definitely ask permission is in a museum/stately home etc.

07-05-2007, 20:21	#1 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Shopping....with a 10-20mm While you lot were out at some exotic place with your camera I had to take my wife to the Trafford Centre So took my camera and just the 10-20mm. Here are a few and thanks for looking. 1# 2# 3# 4#

07-05-2007, 20:42	#2 (permalink)
skipper954 Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southeast Florida USA Posts: 1,721	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm That is one way to suffer through wife's shopping. I am going to have to try it. Very cool shopping center. skip

07-05-2007, 21:58	#3 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Thanks Skip...it does pass the time

07-05-2007, 22:02	#4 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,731	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Wow!! Stepheno, these are super-de-lux shots Great colour, absolutely great compo's, great processing too, and exposure is almost spot-on ... the blacks are just a tad too black to record detail, + since a lot of ppl seem to be wearing black here, there are a lot of black smudges in the shape of people particularly in the third shot. Still, super shots, all of them

07-05-2007, 22:10	#5 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Thanks Charlotte. You hit the nail on the head about exposure. In that mall there are overhead domes letting light in and it's murder trying to get the exposure right.

07-05-2007, 22:17	#6 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,904	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Nice set The lens really does give you a different outlook on quite ordinary situations.

07-05-2007, 22:19	#7 (permalink)
P-E Loves the place Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sheffield, S.Yorkshire UK Posts: 7,492	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm You should go shopping more often

07-05-2007, 22:32	#8 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,731	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Mmmm, that Sigma 10-20mm is flaunting itself at me again ... When I sussed it out online, I spotted the 15mm f/2.8 which I wondered if it'd be better ... any thoughts?

07-05-2007, 22:48	#9 (permalink)
Dabhand16 Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dunstable Bedfordshire UK Posts: 8,904	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Well, it is a bit faster, but I think the 10-20 will give more flexibility and at the wide end is able to add to shots by way of the distortions that can be harnessed to give drama to an image.

07-05-2007, 23:00	#10 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,731	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm D'you really think the extra [?? degree] angle makes such a difference as to be worth choosing it over an extra f-stop, bearing in mind that it's only a 5mm FL difference?

08-05-2007, 07:14	#11 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm So far I seem to be using 10 much more than 20 but the range is there. With a 30D it has such fantastic IQ at high ISO the loss of one stop doesn't worry me.

08-05-2007, 09:18	#12 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,731	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Thanks for that Stepheno. Can I ask what processing you did on these? (to gauge how much of the quality can be attributed to the lens)

08-05-2007, 10:06	#13 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm I only used some Fill Light to brighten the shadows. Here is the unedited RAW file, converted to a 4.8mgb jpg and resized for web. Hope that helps. Oh and I cloned out the spotlight at top centre

08-05-2007, 11:08	#14 (permalink)
Matt Charlton New here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bradford Posts: 29	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm I like those, you've captured the feel of the place very well. I'd love to try something like this but I'd be scared of getting asked what I was doing/escorted off the premises - I think some of the shopping centres you need to ask for permission before taking any shots and most of them are okay with it. Think my favorite is the last shot with a top down view on the people going about their business.

08-05-2007, 11:31	#15 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,574	Re: Shopping....with a 10-20mm Thanjks for your comments Matt. I tend to be a bit up-front about public/candid shots - if you just get on with it nobody seems to bother but if you look furtive or worried about being seen then you will. Security guards can only ask you to stop shooting, which I will, but it only happened once (touch wood) and that was in a store. Where I will definitely ask permission is in a museum/stately home etc.

08-05-2007, 11:37	#16 (permalink)
Matt Charlton New here Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bradford Posts: 29