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Old 22-04-2011, 22:07   #1 (permalink)
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I'm going to post any infrared shots in this thread. Others welcome to post there's here too. Any feed back is most welcome as I've only just started with this.

My Camera is a converted Canon 20D with an enhanced IR filter.

First set - from today taken at Garston Wood.

First 4 all standard B&W conversions.









This last one is a blue skies conversion.

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Like the first shot and the last, but that one of the ewe is an absolute belter for me it just grabs my eye.

No sheep jokes please, I've had two and I ate them, thats my only interest other than pictures,......... unless they are really cute .
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Very nice set!

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Good plan! Will dig out and dust off the IR-ready camera!
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Re: Infrared Thread.

Really interesting shots. I know the result won't be up to these but as starter did you go through the IR filter route before the converted 20D. Plus I have just noticed Elements 8 has an IR type option as part of it's convert to Black and White option. Regards
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nice set chris, #1 & #5 for me. was seriously thinking of buying an infrared filter, will i need to do any other camera adjustments when using it ?
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It does not compare with the IR pimped camera but this is a poor mans attempt via Elements 8. Chris, can't figure out your blue sky in the last pic. Love all of them but got to say the last is canvas ready.

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Like the first shot and the last, but that one of the ewe is an absolute belter for me it just grabs my eye.

No sheep jokes please, I've had two and I ate them, thats my only interest other than pictures,......... unless they are really cute .
Thanks very much. The sheep really turned out well in the sun lit grass. Looked really odd before processing. I've got a blue one but I don't think it looks cute. I'd never admit to having sheep, but at least you eat the evidence.

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Really interesting shots. I know the result won't be up to these but as starter did you go through the IR filter route before the converted 20D. Plus I have just noticed Elements 8 has an IR type option as part of it's convert to Black and White option. Regards
I did - two in fact. First a Cokin IR square filter - as I have them anyway. Needed taping up. Then more recently a hoya R72. They do work once you've set the white balance. Only problem is for the hoya I'm restricted to my 17-40mm - and the length of time exposing. I mostly found around the 10-20 second mark at a high ISO. Much easier with the new camera. Difference is cost - filter around £80 - camera $400.

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Very nice set!

Good plan! Will dig out and dust off the IR-ready camera!
Please do. More the merrier.

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nice set chris, #1 & #5 for me. was seriously thinking of buying an infrared filter, will i need to do any other camera adjustments when using it ?
With the IR conversion or a IR filter you need to set a custom white balance. To do this find a patch of sunlit green grass. Put the filter on and shoot the shot. Set that image as the custom white balance. Otherwise the shots come out too red. They'll look probably orangey anyway before conversion.
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It does not compare with the IR pimped camera but this is a poor mans attempt via Elements 8. Chris, can't figure out your blue sky in the last pic. Love all of them but got to say the last is canvas ready.

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Thanks Russell. That's a nice attempt. I've not tried doing an effect version on a colour. Though a book I've got on IR does do with some.

The Blue Sky effect is done from reversing the colour channels.

In Photoshop CS5 - It's image - adjustments - channel mixer.

On Red channel - move the Red to 0% and Blue to 100%
On Blue channel - move the Blue to 0% and Red to 100%

Below is my image out of camera...as you can see it's orangey.



I normally then do and auto levels...which gives me this on my setup.



The channel switch ("Blue sky effect is this") - from the autolevel on. I've also used Simpbow's selective colour tip he posted elsewhere on here in this one.
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Works wellhad a look for you chrisa, my settings for light brown foliage is selective color - Neutral: magenta +7 yellow+14 then white: black -75 dont know if this would work with your set-up though, to get rid of the cyan in the image again selective color cyan: cyan -67, but depending on how bad/good it is it could be more or less than 67, hope that helps.


This next one is a straight B&W conversion - again after auto levels.



Lastly a "Film Effect version" to give the blurred effect you get with film...(Diffuse Glow - Filter ->Distort -> Diffuse Glow. (Graininess 5, Glow 3, Clear 12).



These I have mostly "actioned" now.

That's about the limit of my "learnt" adjustments so far. Any new ones ?
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thanks for the info... something i must try out soon
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Re: Infrared Thread.

Here's a couple of IR-sensitive shots (my Sigma SD10 with dustscreen removed which also screens out IR) taken yesterday

Dandelions - converted to B/W


Dandelions II - retained some of the blue channel info


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OK some of mine. Shot with converted Canon 300D. Don't forget to click 720 HD option at bottom right of video

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Few more with same camera









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Interesting to see the IR sensitive shots Mark. How did you just retain the blue channel. Just reduce one and not swap the other ?

Dave - They are amazing shots. If I could get as close as that I'd be well pleased. Not tried buildings yet, maybe something to give a go.
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Interesting to see the IR sensitive shots Mark. How did you just retain the blue channel. Just reduce one and not swap the other ?
I effectively get two "colours", blue and magenta. The blue is from the visible light and the magenta is the IR. Slap the R72 on and it's just magenta
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Took this alittle over three years ago. I have always loved the way people look and never think twice about taking a picture of a person subject.

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Chris, all I do is desaturate & then pull in both ends of "levels".

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Thats nice
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Thanks Dave. I like the portrait Boofers. The way some portraits turn out can be quite odd on my camera. Blue skying them seems to turn some into aliens...
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Not really IR but IR effect. Elements 8 > Enhance > Convert to black and white > IR and boost the contrast. Still loving the deep blue skies. Not certain Elements will let me enhance one colour that way. Regards

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i just cant get my head around infared the photos here look different but why infared instead of black and white...?
i understand the concept, black and white, HDR, colour ,selective colour , etc. etc .. but Infared ? ....... .
I'm not being disrespectful to the shots taken in this thread ...i just don't understand it .....
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Lol I think I like it, clearly a niche market. I have a button on elements that says Infrared so thats how I know. Would I have a camera converted to take only infrared, probably not yet. You could wait for a proper explanation here or try Wikipedia or youtube. Regards

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Not really IR but IR effect. Elements 8 > Enhance > Convert to black and white > IR and boost the contrast. Still loving the deep blue skies. Not certain Elements will let me enhance one colour that way. Regards
I like that conversion.

Have similar option in Photoshop CS5 on the black and white convert. I'll try re-reading my IR book on how to do pseudo-IR shots, and see if there's anything different there.

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i just cant get my head around infared the photos here look different but why infared instead of black and white...?
i understand the concept, black and white, HDR, colour ,selective colour , etc. etc .. but Infared ? ....... .
I'm not being disrespectful to the shots taken in this thread ...i just don't understand it .....
Infrared is about recording "invisible light". It gives a different image to what you'd get by taking a normal B&W image. It typically means only capturing light from the infrared spectrum of the light, and is especially noticeable with reflective sun light off vegetation and buildings. The normal filter (720nm) - and what you get with hoya,cokin etc filters as well as conversions -, only captures light over this part of the spectrum. My camera has an enhanced colour filter (665nm) and above. There's another filter at 590nm that is also done.

Some examples of these filters can be seen here.
Life Pixel Digital Infrared Filter Comparison Photos | LifePixel Digital Infrared Photography IR Conversion, Modification & Scratched Sensor Repair

More info can be found on the web if you're interested.
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Some more infrared shots that I took last week, whilst on a break in Snowdonia.

A B&W conversion of a shot of the ridge above the Miners track from near top of Snowdon.


Same shot - with the blue skies conversion. I like this as I think the grass looks a bit like snow.



Finally a shot from that ridgeway looking at Snowdon itself. Blue skies and then Auto Coloured.
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Interesting trio - North Wales never looked so good!
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Love this thread, and stunning images. Still not moved to digital and tried to process some B&W IR film the other month. Got very frustrated tho as when scanned in seem to obtain serius amount of grain/noise for an ISO 12 taken shot.

Can anyone cast their mind back to when using this format and have any idea on what I might be doing wrong?
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Sorry Pete - as you know I don't. But do try reducing the Scan resolution from the max to see if that helps.

Not Landscape this time but a IR Pearl Bordered Fritillary in IR.



ISO 400 - F9 1/250 with Fill Flash.
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First 3 that I like from my recent Scotland Trip - some more still to do.


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A "blue sky" one
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i just cant get my head around infared the photos here look different but why infared instead of black and white...?
i understand the concept, black and white, HDR, colour ,selective colour , etc. etc .. but Infared ? ....... .
I'm not being disrespectful to the shots taken in this thread ...i just don't understand it .....
Try and imagine a dirt road stretching down a lane of trees, the trees are casting shadows and the grass is dark green. You have horses and fences along the side. Most of the plant life will reflect infrared and it will show white. Wood metal and some other types of material will not reflect and will show dark or normally. Some people love the way the white reflection brightens up the whole picture when converting to B&W. You can capture really good detail on most of the pictures and it will look better converted to B&W then one converted from color. It is up to your own interests, also you can tweak the white balance and get different looking pictures that have tinted colors that show in near infrared. I really like the way plant life is so bright without being burned out, easy to tint and looks wonderful with soft filters. Just me
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Re: Infrared Thread.

I've been playing with converting my RAWs in Canon DPP instead of ACR after going through some tutorials on LifePixel.

Definitely seems better in my mind for getting the wb out of the camera.

Then had a play in PS with the hue saturation on the yellow and blues after channel swapping and got this.



Having read their tuts on Enhanced Colour WB settings, I may have a play at using a white/grey card to set in camera - rather than the grass, as that's what they're recommending.
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