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Old 21-04-2007, 21:49   #1 (permalink)
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Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

PC Pro magazine state that the introductory rate of £135 (inc. VAT) is scheduled to increase to £205 (inc. VAT) at the end of the month ... soooooo anyone wishing to purchase Adobe Photoshop Lightroom at a saving of £70, don't hang about - get it soon! and at latest by 30 April

PS: I've seen nothing but raving reviews for Lightroom - an excellent choice by all accounts.
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Have you got it/tried it Charlotte?
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Old 21-04-2007, 22:52   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Sadly, no But I did have the Beta version, + must say I really like it Am seriously considering getting Lightroom ... since I'm having a few problems with Capture One, LOL
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Old 21-04-2007, 22:54   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

I've got Lightroom but not really got in to it ........need to spend sometime with it.

You never still having problems with CP1 are you?........have you emailed support?
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Old 21-04-2007, 23:06   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

No I haven't, it seemed a bit of a schleppe when I viewed their support page, but then I got it working again anyway ... haven't tried it today, but I have a feeling that "Limited Edition + 1 update" means it's only one step beyond a trial version, i.e. it IS a trial version, but you can renew it once I'll keep you posted
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Old 21-04-2007, 23:14   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Yes let me know how it goes.

Will have to see how Gary goes on with the one he's had today.
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Old 21-04-2007, 23:21   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Yes, I saw earlier that Gary was lucky enough to get one from you as well Be interesting to see if he gets the same thing. I think the first reminder came after 15 days. If he doesn't get the same thing, then it's something I've done or not done (always a strong possibility )
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

I've just been reading on the Phase One website about the offer but you probably read it already
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

No I haven't (honest) but I'm guessing it says what I said about being a trial version??
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

No full version of CP1 LE.....not a trial.
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Old 21-04-2007, 23:43   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Kewl! I'll go have a look what it says then, seeing as you're not telling
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Sorry

Quoted from elsewhere;

'August 31st, 2006, Copenhagen, Denmark: Phase One®, the world leader in professional
digital imaging solutions and SanDisk® Corporation, the world’s largest supplier of flash
storage card products, are helping photographers to realize the benefits of shooting in RAW. All
SanDisk Extreme III CompactFlash® cards now include a full and free edition of Phase
One’s Capture OneTM LE RAW Workflow software. Capture One LE normally retails at $ / €
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Already read it now ... after some digging to find it

I'm thinking I didn't activate it properly in the beginning, when I created my profile with them, + now the two are not actually connected in their records Oh well, as long as I can keep re-activating it, I s'pose that'll do ... 'til I get fed up of doing that ... then I might get round to "raising a ticket with them" ... eventually
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............ or end up just buying it, as I do quite like it, I find it much faster than Lightroom Beta was, + other RAW prog's for that matter Unless ................
when are you buying your next flash card? Can I have dibs on your next free key, or is that being greedy (Fortunately ) I use SD cards, otherwise I'd buy a card just to get the key
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Re: Lightroom Price Increase Imminent ...

Back to Lightroom ... Just remembered, the review on it went such like : Absolutely the best thing since sliced bread, except it doesn't take plug-ins To me this says that consumers are gonna demand the addition of plug-ins before too long + that Adobe are gonna comply ... which implies an upgrade in the not-too-distant future ... which means users will have to shell out fairly early on for the first upgrade, if they want the latest features (inc. plug-ins). Now, this is all my own surmising, so don't take it as gospel, but I betcha that's what'll happen
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You can activate it on two PC's so maybe you could start again with different password although I guess it has your email address

So back on topic.........Lightroom got to give this a go and I'm always looking out for user feedback on it
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You can activate it on two PC's so maybe you could start again with different password .........
Now there's a thought ... I am still thinking about buying a new pc

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... although I guess it has your email address
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So back on topic.........Lightroom got to give this a go and I'm always looking out for user feedback on it
Well, when you have a go, please let me know how you get on with it, as I think I want to get Lightroom anyway
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Back to Lightroom ... Just remembered, the review on it went such like : Absolutely the best thing since sliced bread, except it doesn't take plug-ins To me this says that consumers are gonna demand the addition of plug-ins before too long + that Adobe are gonna comply ... which implies an upgrade in the not-too-distant future ... which means users will have to shell out fairly early on for the first upgrade, if they want the latest features (inc. plug-ins). Now, this is all my own surmising, so don't take it as gospel, but I betcha that's what'll happen
Lightroom is unlikely to ever support the sort of plugins that we know and love from Photoshop, the whole architecture is entirely different. I don't really have the words to explain this but Lightroom doesn't actually edit the image pixel information, it creates rules that describe how the image should be displayed and these are applied "on the fly" when you view the image (forgetting jpeg cached previews).

Lightroom is however a modular and extensible system so new functionality can be developed and added by Adobe or third parties (once the SDK has been produced). I haven't got a clue if anyone's planning to do that I suppose it will depend on the popularity of the product.

For other reasons, I'm sure Lightroom is going to get an upgrade before too long there seems to be a lot of rumours of features that didn't make the cut due to time constraints. Will Adobe charge for it? History says "Yes" and that can't be ignored but I have a suspicion (based on nothing more than rumours) that there'll be a free 1.1.


I've been using Lightroom since the beta and in earnest since the release, it's a very different way of working and takes some getting your head round but I now find I hardly ever touch PS, or any other image software.

Images for web presentation, different crops for different print sizes and ratios, greyscale, colour and duotone conversions can all be done in LR and the settings then either be stored as seperate Snapshots to be recalled whenever you want or as virtual copies of the image. I used to either have multiple copies of an image or would just create a version, use it and trash it. Now they're all just there.

I've used ACR and Bibble extensively in the past and dabbled with a few other Raw Converters, I'm finding it very easy to get OK results and good results are coming with only a short period of familiarisation. However being used to ACR is likely to be an advantage here, I'm not sure how easy the transition from Rawshooter or CaptureOne would be.

Overall it's not everything I'd hoped for but it's a lot quicker and simpler than the combination of tools I used before. If you've not tried it, have a go with the trial while the discount is still available.

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Appreciate the feedback Daniel
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Thanks for the info Dan I'd just decided to see if there was a trial download when I saw your post, in which you suggest that so will do Sounds good to me
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A little more info for anyone thinking of using Lightroom. I currently have 6459 images catalogued with no sign of a slow down, this is on a Core 2 Duo 2.4 with 4GB RAM and system / apps & data distributed across several drives. I'd be upset if anything were getting slow on that hardware at this stage.

Widescreen monitors definitely recommended, I had two 1280*1024 but LR will only run on one. Being used to spreading PS across both I found this quite limiting, and was not pleased to have to start continually scrolling, opening and hiding pallettes etc. Yesterday I replaced the monitors with two 20" 1680*1050 widescreen jobs and LR is much better running on one of those. This depends on how tolerant of minor annoyances you are, I'm not. (The monitor's were a bargain £155.00 each that's both of them for £250.00 cheaper than a decent 24" widescreen)

I bought Martin Evening's Lightroom book, well worth the price haven't read any others but it covers the basics well. I'd like something for Lightroom with the level of detail provided by Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera Raw but this will do for starters.

Anyone who's used PS Elements Organiser (Photoshop Album) will recognise the stacking features, great for people like me who can never decide which of those four nearly identical images to delete.

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Cheers Dan, that's useful too, as I'm trying to decide what set-up I want for a new PC ... one widescreen seems to be the favourite (prolly 23") as I don't have space for two monitors.

I just read on the d/l site that "Lightroom is designed to run alongside PS" but I don't have PS in any shape or form, so how will it perform as a standalone editor I wonder?

Right, downloaded the trial, off to install it ......................... BBL
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LR is not really an editor, it's a cataloguer, raw converter, image management solution.

The Raw Converter enables me to acheive 80 - 90% of what I used PS for, colour and tone correction, cropping, simple spot removal. The other 10 - 20% requires you to edit in an external application for non PS you can specify the app you want to use and then when you edit in LR it creates a "developed" TIF copy of your image, calls it Filename-Edited.tif and loads your editor with that image. It can create a "version stack" so that you only see the edited version but can revert back to the original if required. This is very similar to how editing is handled by Elements Organiser.

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Thanks for that Dan, yes I only need it to edit/convert my RAW's. Tried to allocate PhotoPlus as the alternative editor, to edit exported TIF's (as I don't have PS) but it didn't recognise it, it only listed the other recognised RAW editors I have installed, but never mind.

Ok, I've installed it, + all looks great. Even though I uninstalled the beta version before installing LR, it sneakily kept the library + auto-imported it. As this shows a lot of missing files which I deleted after importing into the beta version, I want to get rid of these + start the library from scratch ... I found how to delete the existing collection it imported from the beta, but not the individual folders; I see how to delete them one by one, but is there a way to just clear them with one click?

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Charlotte,

Close lightroom
Go to the folder where your library is (default is My Documents\My Pictures\Lightroom)
Delete the Lightroom.lrdb file
Restart Lightroom and it will ask you to find or create a new database

Bob's your uncle.

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The thing that brasses me off is that it is available from the USA site for $199 - £99 at the current exchange rate, but when you click on the link you are diverted to the UK site where it is £125 + VAT.

I'll probably still go for it, though.
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Know what you mean Graham, same with PhotoShop Go figure
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My first comment on the trial ... And I found this with the beta version as well ... I would only recommend Lightroom for use on high-end PC's ... My poor old pc (4 yrs old, which is apparently very old in doggy-pc years) is really battling with it. It has slowed my pc right down, as I only have 512MB RAM ... must speed up buying a new PC
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Charlotte, I don't know the rest of your PC Spec but 512MB Ram is a real limiting factor, if you've not got the money for a new machine right now upgrading to 2GB is likely to give a real performance boost for a reasonable outlay. It probably won't seem much faster for day to day web browsing, booting the OS etc but would help with Lightroom and probably any other image manipulation programs.

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